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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2008, 08:13:36 am »
I found the show to be interesting.  I do not have a cell phone but I have had cordless phones since my boys were very young.  My oldest is 21, and the panelist (Drs) did briefly mention cordless phones.  I worry about my boys, they all have cell phones, but I must say they text msg most of the time. 

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2008, 08:53:35 am »
Cell phones are an easy target for something that has been around for ages (brain tumors, both malignant and benign).  I agree that there is nothing wrong with looking at this issue (cellphone use and brain tumors) but I also understand that, without hard, incontrovertible scientific evidence, it will be contentious.  I allow that my opinion is just that, an opinion, and I accept that others will have an opposite opinion.  That doesn't mean that anyone is necessarily right or wrong.  It's up to the people claiming this link between cell phone use and brain tumors to prove it with real evidence.  Until they do, I choose to disagree with the premise. 

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2008, 09:15:20 am »
Perhaps the discussion about brain tumors will develop a better understanding of all types of head tumors and treatment options.  Education strenghtens us.  I agree that we need to keep an open mind for facts.  All questioning is good.

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2008, 10:13:51 am »
It's an interesting debate. 

Just as an aside, I find it easier to use an ear bud (or headset) for both my cell phone and my regular cordless phone - it helps prevent stiff neck.  Plus, in NJ, it is against the law to talk on a hand-held cell phone in the car (NYC, too).  I just find it much easier.  In fact, I've used an ear bud for my cell phone for years - and here I am with and AN anyway.  Who knows. 

My feeling is that there are so many things in our environment that are probalby harmful on some level - it just pays to take precautions whree we can and then try to just enjoy life.  It is still far riskier to get behind the wheel of a car and travel down Route 80 (or name any other highway)...

Goodness, I must be feeling philisophic today...

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2008, 01:01:21 pm »
Debbi:

I appreciate your philosophic ruminations.  Perhaps because I believe that, in short, life is a risk - on many levels.  In a sense, we risk our lives every day, especially when we drive.  I'll bet most of us know someone who died (or had a friend or relative who was killed) in an automobile accident.  So, over the past 25 years, we've insisted that cars and roads be safer and although there are more cars on the roads than ever before, the fatal accident rate has steadily dropped.  When it comes to driving, no one suggests that we ban automobiles because of what might happen.  Frankly, living under that kind of mindset - the world is dangerous and you might be killed - could emotionally cripple a person.  Fortunately, most people don't allow that to happen based on 'what if?' scare stories in the media that cynically prey on people's fears and not necessarily unreasonable concerns to capture our attention and - they hope - buy the book, magazine or newspaper, watch the TV show or log on to a website. 

I'm sure there are lots of things in our environment that are not good for us yet mankind has survived for millennia.  The average life expectancy (for whites) in the U.S. today is 77 years (73.6 years for men and 79.4 years for women).   In 1900 it the average life expectancy was 47.  Think about that.  With modern medicine, better nutrition and generally healthier lifestyles along with safer working environments, much improved pre-natal care and, equally important, the rise of the middle class to a state where it is economically feasible to obtain health care, as we have for our AN's, Americans have reached a point where we are healthy enough to focus on things like the possibility of cell phones 'causing' brain tumors, which, in my opinion, they probably do not.  If it can be proven that they do, fine.  Let's fix that, as I'm certain the engineering specialists employed by cell phone manufacturers, would.  That or they would rapidly go out of business. 

Like you, Debbi, I tend to think positive.  I try to live a reasonably safe and fairly healthy lifestyle.  I refuse to obsess over every silly scare story on TV or elsewhere that tries to make me worry about practically everything that I may eat, drink or come in contact with in my daily life.  Maybe it's my accumulated life experience (or you can call it just plain cynicism) but I've grown extremely skeptical  of the media and their almost constant attempts to 'inform' us of all these supposed 'dangerous' foods and so on that could harm or kill us.  I think a lot of it is overblown nonsense based on scanty evidence and a whole lot of supposition and conjecture.  I place the cell phone-brain tumor 'debate' in that category.  I don't want to debate the issue. I think the proponents of that position should either prove it - or stop trying to convince people this is something we should now worry about.  If it's scientifically proven, which could take years of study, then, if I were still around, I would freely admit I was previously mistaken and, like most folks, throw away my cell phone.   Actually, I don't own a cell phone, so I'll have to throw away my wife's cellphone.  :)  In any case, if cellphone use is ever scientifically proven to actually cause brain tumors, I seriously doubt that news will be broken on the Larry King show.  Meanwhile, I'll just have to take my chances.

Thus ends Jim's ruminations for today.  (Worth about what you paid for them).

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2008, 02:15:39 pm »
All I can say is what I KNOW to be true in my case -- I had a VERY large tumor at a VERY YOUNG age and had NEVER used a cell phone!!!!!  It is enough for me to know that that is NOT what caused mine.  Could it contribute in others?  Maybe, but I agree with Jim -- I can't NOT live my life to the fullest because I fear what MIGHT be!!

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2008, 04:30:15 pm »
Common guys and girls you must admit Larry King is a real character and he does have some amazing guests. 

A fan from Canada,
Anne Marie

I'm not a Larry fan, I think it's time for him to retire, but I do have to admit he has some interesting guests.

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2008, 10:58:20 pm »
Actually, I don't own a cell phone, so I'll have to throw away my wife's cellphone.  :)

Did you ever notice that every now and then, in the middle of one of his lengthier ruminations, Jim will come up with a real howler?  :D

Shades of Henny Youngman, I think.  8)

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2008, 12:48:29 am »
Thought I'd pop in for a comment on this.  I don't think cell phones cause tumors either, but when I see how much time my dau-in-law is on her phone, I wonder if it's causing her damage in some way or another.  She and my son use it as their primary phone and she is on that thing for hours!  I never liked to be on the cell phone for long periods of time because it started to get warm and I didn't like that.  The cell I have now I hardly use.  It's really for emergency use only.  Actually I'm more afraid that she's going to be in a car accident while she's on her phone. 

Anyway, the cell phone debate continues, I guess. 

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2008, 09:18:13 am »
Steve:

It's just me being droll.  I write the way I talk.  At length, with an occasional salient point or piece of information and a touch of humor. 

Actually, my rumination would take about 2 minutes to say in person but looks a lot longer when every word is typed out.  It's just a perception.  However, I can be brief when necessary.  It wasn't necessary in this case.  Thus ends my comment on my comment.  :)

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2008, 12:53:11 pm »
Steve -

I always find Jim's posts very well thought out and eloquent - he says that I'd like to say, only much better than I ever could  :)

I have to say I didn't pick up on his cell phone comment, but I did find myself chuckling on two occasions recently when he used the expression "my bad" LOL

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2008, 02:46:56 pm »
Here is the archived video from the show for those who missed Larry -“Live�
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/05/28/lkl.cell.cancer.cnn

After reading the transcript and now seeing the faces-I remain on the peripheral here without too much comment or bias (yet)

My concern is that we are seeing “youthâ€? (teens and young adults) and/or their concerned parents on our forum here. Many who are coming up with huge whopper size AN tumors.  :o Mine was a whopper – but hey I was 44.… it had time to grow slowly. These kids of the high tech information era with big tumors -have me concerned.

This cannot be a closed book and we need more impartial studies done (that are not funded by cell phone companies or microchip related corporations.) :-\

I am in the heart of the silicon forest and see numerous people walking and talking with cell phones clipped to their ears- here. I often wonder if they are talking to “the enterprise� and ready to say,
        “Beam me up Scottieâ€?
…at any moment.

We do not know enough yet… In my parent’s era everyone poo pooed the connections made with the cigarettes they were smoking- to cancer. (May my aunties who poo pooed me, when I brought this up to them, rest in peace- I miss them dearly. :'(Then we had dial phones… and who then could conceivably could even think of “skypeâ€? for telephone conversations.  This month we are taking soil samples from Planet Mars and transmitting lab results to Planet Earth. My grandmother had a wind-up gram-a-phone for her listening pleasure and my kid has her Nano Pod- for hers. (One day, of she is not careful, it will go through the laundry and she will loose her entire record collection  ;))



More studies are needed.



My teen want one of those funky things that everyone wears in their ear like I wanted dangly earrings and  pierced ears in the 70’s… My parents were worried about ear infections from pierced ears. My teen ask me if she saved up her allowance -could she get one.

I said “NO�.

“Why not?!?  >:( â€?, she asked me.

I replied
“Because we do not know enough about these yet…  :-* â€?

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P.S. If we ever form a ANA debating club- I get Jim Scott on my team!!!  :-*  ;D ... Especially if he talks as eloquently as he writes. Maybe at the next symposium I will meet him ...and we will have Scottie beam us up. Hey maybe he is Scottie!!?  ;)That’s it ! Jim Scott has now been renamed- “SCOTTIEâ€?. :-* :D ;D :)
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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2008, 03:10:02 pm »

Jim Scott has now been renamed- “SCOTTIE�. :-* :D ;D :)

Thanks, but I can't do the Scottish accent as well as James Doohan ('Montgomery Scott' on the original Star Trek).  "I'm giving it all she's got, Captain!"   :)

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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2008, 08:57:26 pm »
Oh dear God… Scotty- PLEASE beam me up…

I just caved in at the mall  ::) …and let my teen buy a pair of dangly earrings.

I then lost my teen in one of the stores… as she left her cell phone in the family van… so calling to find her did not work. Finally I had to have her paged by a cashier.
Apparently  ;) there is nothing more embarrassing to a teen girl than having a cashier state her name and to meet her mom at check stand #8- announced on a loud speaker

Now imagine the pff sound, the rolling of the eyes  ::) and the flick of the hair and then “the lookâ€?   Ã¢â‚¬Â¦ and that lovely teen attitude that parents often see at “the mallâ€?. (When the parent holds their breath and chants the mantra, “I will get through these teen years …  :-\ I will get through these teen years… :) )

“Well Mom- if I had a blue tooth ear phone that was always in my ear… I wouldn’t have forgot it in the car…�

At that point I smirked  :-X and said, “Scottie PLEASE beam me up!â€?   ;D

She replied  “MOM you are SO weird! WHO is Scottie?!â€?

“Oh he is the voice inside the Bluetooth phone running the controls of the enterprise…�, I casually replied

Those teen girls eyes rolled again . The arms crossed. The huff sound. Pff sound… stares out the family van window with “the look�.

I am sure she has quite convinced herself that  her mother was cognitively affected by the AN (smirk  ;)) … no doubt though once she gets her hand on my lap top she will go straight to google and type in “Scottieâ€? and “enterpriseâ€?.( I’ll make a treky of her yet. ;) ;D )

Meanwhile I am not caving into my teen and the wear-on-your-ear cellphone trend…

Daisy Head Mazy



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Re: "Brain Tumors and cellphones" on CNN's Larry King Live tonight
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2008, 10:06:13 pm »
God bless you, Daisy  :D

I'm currently dealing with a pre-teen daughter and I'm wondering if either one of us will make it to her teen years in one piece  ::)

For some reason her pre-teen brother isn't nearly the challenge that she is - but I'm fearful it's only a matter of time LOL

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