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satman

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Sick and Tired !
« on: December 07, 2007, 09:57:49 am »
I need words of encouragement,seriously.
It seems to be one of those days.
I am sick and tired of looking this way , I'm tired of pocketing food ,tired of food falling out of my mouth ,tired of walking funny ,tired of talking funny, tired of putting all this s/crap in my eye,tired of driving with this crap in my eye ,and tired of many other things that one has to deal with after A N,
Im just fed up and sick and tired ! The surgery is without a doubt the easiest part. sorry everybody,
did'nt mean to rant,thought it might make me feel better , it did'nt.
kicked my little 8cm buddy to the curb-c ya !

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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2007, 10:02:22 am »
I agree .. the surgery and hospital stay was a cake walk .. I got to sleep all day ... the following months of tring to get back into the swing of things was the hard part..  >:(
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2007, 10:12:37 am »
*runs in, gives Satman BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG huggle.... *   :-*

Hang in there...... regardless of what I say, it may not matter, but know thoughts and wishes for continued wellness come from me to you.

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2007, 10:56:21 am »
Hi John,

I understand completely how you feel.  It is very easy to get sick and tired of all this.  I just hope something happens in your day that makes you forget about the things you are tired of. 

You may be having a bad day, but I want you to know I think of you often...  I'm hoping for more good days that you can enjoy soon. 

You hang in there, buddy
Patti
17 mm AN removed 1-16-06
  retrosigmoid
  paralysis, cornea transplant,avascular necrosis

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2007, 11:32:06 am »
John,

     I know how you are feeling! Been there and still doing that! On one of my bad days my daily devotion helped me out so much that I have it taped on my office desk:


Perhaps you get worried and full of fear when important things don't go your way. Have you ever thought that God may be allowing those events to teach you to stay peaceful and calm in the mist of the storm? He may be toughen you up, to help you develop some backbone and stability in your life. We have to be willing to change our attitudes and deal with the issues God bring us.

Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the test of your faith developes perserverance. Perserverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. James 1: 2-4


Good Luck,
Ellis
Ellis- Age 50- Mississippi
3.2 cm AN Translab w/ BAHA Surgery
@ House Ear Clinic - LA - 01/04/07    Dr. Brackmann, Dr. Hilselberger, Dr. Stefan
Platinum weight in right eye-Dr. Roberts
Right side facial paralysis (slowly getting movements)

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2007, 11:35:09 am »
Satman,

Oh my super hero needs a BIG ole Texas size HUG! :)

You have every right to feel grouchy… you have been through the tumor mill. ( :D That was a pun.  ::)) Remember that you have had one of THE biggest tumors removed and you had more time in surgery than many of  us … Do not start reading recovery stories and compare them to your own as hardly any of us had half as big as your super sized 8+cm AN tumor.

Facial issues
Perhaps you need to go to facial therapy and have them put  “the probeâ€? on your face to see if there is any firing or activity… if there is then this will take more patience on your part for things to heal. I was told by a specialist…

http://www.ohsu.edu/ent/ear/nguyenhuynh.html 
(being a Harvard and Stanford grad I take him to be well educated on the subject)

… that “facial palsy can take anywhere from 3 months to 3 years to resolveâ€? (I choked when he said “yearsâ€?  :o ).

 It was 3 months and 5 days (not that I am counting  ::) or anything) until I had 1 mm of slight movement… as my surgeons left residual nerve on my tumor (i.e. they did not hardly touch it) as we agreed pre-surgery.  I know there is a small possibility I may have to return for more torture and a run through the ‘tumor mill’    :D again “ifâ€? there is re-growth.

Remember that you had the biggest whopper of us all – and your facial nerve was stretched….big  BIG time! If there is no nerve response to the probe then you need to consult with a plastic surgeon. Even “ifâ€? the facial nerve was damaged beyond natural  healing  (& time) or repair (the nerve graph/jump- BTW will have Bell’s palsy resolving at a slower pace than those who did not need a graft)… There ARE treatments that can be done to reanimate the face.

Read up on NancyAnn (our true facial hero on the forum here)
http://anausa.org/forum/index.php?topic=5544.0

http://anausa.org/forum/index.php?topic=5414.msg48773#msg48773

She had a tendon transfer just very recently
http://www.hopkinsfacialplastics.com/gallery_facial_reanimation.php

Do you have a copy of the ANA book on facial issues? If not I highly recommend it…

https://secure.baxinternet.com/~anausa/for_sale.html


The Facial Nerve and Acoustic Neuroma: Possible Damage and Rehabilitation (AN4)
Tips and information for patients who have facial weakness or paralysis after treatment for acoustic neuroma. Includes an explanation of the facial grading system and some exercises that can be performed at home to improve facial tone.

Eye issues

You really need to see an ophthalmologist.
I understand that a tube can be placed it help with eye tearing. After quickly figuring out that the “E� in ENT does not stand for “eye� I went straight to my ophthalmologist who quickly referred me to a Oculofacial Plastic Surgeon. I now see him every 2 months. He did not advocate surgery for me as much a “patience�(which some days wears thin as I fiddle with the double-side-sticky –taped-on eye weight) … and "if" there is no improvement then we may do surgery. I am not near as far along in the time frame of recovery as you are …SO I can imagine you would be getting REALLY frustrated by now. It is totally OK for you to express this

Balance Issues
Night before last I had a rotten and restless night of sleep- as I was up with one sick child (flu season and all)… and yesterday my balance was terrible. Last night I took benadryl and an 8 hour dose of Tylenol …and I slept thought he night! My balance is much better today. I have noticed that when I am fatigued my balance and motor coordination is not as good as when I am well rested. I also notice that if I do not get my 20 minutes of power walking in a day  - my balance, spirits and energy is not as good. I know you get up at an ungodly (and un-humanly) hour to go to work. You also have a pretty high stress (adrenaline rushing) occupation… You have to ask yourself if this is magnifying your symptoms and perhaps slowing down your recovery.

Are you getting in 20 minutes of heart pumping and balancing exercise in a day?

Sleep deprivation?
I really want you   ;) ...to read a chapter a night of Sleep Thieves by Stanley Coren. He is funny enough that his writing just may lift your spirits. He also has an  interesting chapter on people who work the “graveyard shiftâ€? (i.e. working before 5 am) which ranges from factory workers to nursing staff… night shift ER staff to the local baker.

The blues

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  I’m just fed up and sick and tired!

Satman Super 8 -It is ok to feel this way … and I would be worried about you if you did not express this.

You are always so fun and spunky in your posts that I would not observe you to be “clinically depressed� … but I am not around you daily to be accurate on this.

Please read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression

"If" you feel that you are heading that direction please talk to your PCP about it. If you are just having one really bad AN day – well here is a big Ole ANA family member HUG.

Think how far you have come (walker, in bed, not able to drive, unable to work at all, endurance tests with your “ physical terrorist �) and where you are now…

Keep moving forward Super “8� … and know it is ok to have “fed up and sick and tired!� days- you DO have a human side. You do not have to take a dose of kryptonite and wear a super hero cape ALL the time … and you are still much appreciated even if you have days when you are not feeling “faster than a news truck or higher than a traffic helicopter�.

Cheers (and more hugs),

4

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4cm Left, 08/22/07 R/S 11+ hr surgery Stanford U, Dr. Robert Jackler, Dr. Griffith Harsh, Canadian fellow Assist. Dr. Sumit Agrawal. SSD, 3/6 on HB facial scale, stick-on-eyeweight worked, 95% eye function@ 6 months. In neuromuscular facial retraining. Balance regained! Recent MRI -tumor receded!

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Re: Sick and Tired !
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2007, 12:32:53 pm »
Lots of good thoughts being sent your way satman. Hang in there.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2007, 12:34:27 pm »
Hi John:  I hear you & understand the frustration of the day in & day out dealing with the paralysis.   We didn't ask for this but it's happened.  Last night my best friend called; we use to take active vacations 3-4 times a year.  She asked about going on one - even just a hiking one - I told her I can't climb like I use too....
I miss my old life too, but I believe it IS going to get better than it is right now,  it does take alot of time for the body to heal + the added annoyance with eye issues, fullness in the head, having to take the time to do things to our face that we never had to deal with....
Your nerve graft wasn't that long ago - you still have many months before you'll see any improvement, so dealing with this craziness it is.    I believe that things will be better in 2 years - don't know why but 2009 is looking good to me.   I'm looking at 2008 as still a healing year for me.
In the meantime I'm allowing the healing to go on, giving myself another year for it.  I will take vacations with my friend to places we've never been, but she realizes we have to tone them down.   For me, being out in nature is what helps.   In the meantime I'm taking care of things at home - making my 'nest' a nicer place to be, taking control of my past 'pack - ratting' behaviors, playing my piano again.
I understand the bad days John, we want our old selves back;   right now I'm growing to love & taking better care of the new me.   Love yourself John, you deserve to give yourself time to heal.

Always good thoughts my friend,  Nancy
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retrosigmoid 6/19/06
Gold weight 7/19/06, removed 3/07
lateral tarsel strip X3
T3 procedure 11/20/07
1.6 Gm platinum weight 7/10/08
lateral canthal sling 11/14/08
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 12:49:39 pm »
Hi Satman….Adrian here.  I’m sorry you’re having “a dayâ€?.  I completely understand your frustrations.  Believe me when I say that my AN was a definite “signâ€? from above that I need to stop being so negative in many areas of my life.  Naturally….I’m not the happiest of people.  It comes with the characteristics of being very Anal Retentive, Obsessive Compulsive, a Perfectionist, and Attention Deficient.  My more beautiful half, Sam, naturally…..IS very happy, positive, and only sees the good in just about everything.  So….that being said, I work very hard, not that I’m always very successful, but I work on being happy and positive.

Every time I’m asked about my surgery, or just offer the info myself; people always say, “I’m sorry to hear thatâ€?.  I ALWAYS reply with, “don’t be….I’m notâ€?!  I look at my AN as a very good thing.  I always tell people I hate to ride the coat-tails of “real brain surgeryâ€? because I had options with my surgery.  Others with brain tumors/cancer don’t have options.  When I first saw my surgeons about my AN, they gave me all of the worst case scenarios.  They were scary to say the least.  I’ll take the SSD, facial palsy, eye GOOP, occasional balance issues, and occasional swallowing issues in trade for:
•   Being able to feed myself
•   Being able to wipe my own butt
•   Being able to make love to my girl!
•   Being ALIVE
•   Being able to have my mother drive me crazy (I love her, but she does)
•   Being able to drive to work (though a Chauffeur would be nice)
•   Being able to hear!!!!!!!!!  (even if its only through 1 ear!)

I know there are many more things I’m grateful for, but you get the idea.  Satman….I know this all sucks and you’ve definitely had one of the worst AN experiences.  You are allowed to have bad days, but try to look at the good things about your AN.  Make a list if you have to for all that you are grateful for.  I hope reading this lifts you sprits.


Sincerely,
Adrian
Age 35/ 4cm AN right side, Transpetrosal aproach, 9/6/07
Dr. Loren Bartels - Otolaryngology & partner Dr. Christopher Danner
Dr. Harry van Loveren - Neurosurgeon & partner Dr. Levine
Dr. David Samuels - Anesthesiologist
Tampa General Hopital, Tampa FL
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 01:23:10 pm »
John,
We all know how you feel, and are going through the same things while maybe at diferent stages and levels. Hang in there, bubby. I'll prayer for you and your recovery and will pray for your wife also. I know that while I suffer from the physical affects of AN, I am sure the stress on my wife has been immense.  Everything will get better with time and patience. Things my not be great right now, but be happy that you can as Adrian put is "wipe your own butt". There are others out there that are much much worse off.
Good Luck and cheer up. If you want to talk, I'm in Texas also.
2.4cm AN removed, Retrosigmoid, 10/1/07
Memorial Hermann, Dr. Chang & Dr. Alp
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recovered from the balance issues at about 4-6months

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 01:27:23 pm »
I just wanted to be real!  :D

Adrian
Age 35/ 4cm AN right side, Transpetrosal aproach, 9/6/07
Dr. Loren Bartels - Otolaryngology & partner Dr. Christopher Danner
Dr. Harry van Loveren - Neurosurgeon & partner Dr. Levine
Dr. David Samuels - Anesthesiologist
Tampa General Hopital, Tampa FL
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2007, 01:44:49 pm »
Satman
I'm sorry your having a bad day. I was having one of those days about 2 weeks ago. I do understand how frustrating this AN thing is. I have days where I want to say something and things come out all wrong????? It makes me look like I have a speech impediment. Hang in there....we all care for you and hope that your spirits lift. HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!BIG HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mindy
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2007, 01:50:32 pm »
Satman............ hugs. Just prayers and hugs....... Hang in there
Cyndi
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2007, 02:09:41 pm »
Hi, John:

Like everyone else, I'm sorry you're having a bad day but this is the perfect place to rant because we understand  Oh, some more than others, I suppose, but no matter how good our surgical/radiation outcomes, nobody 'escapes' with absolutely no after-effects from an acoustic neuroma tumor, regardless of their treatment, hospital, doctors or attitude.  Healing takes too long and the ramifications of facial paralysis, eye malfunctions and balance deficiencies that you mention are real and frustrating, we know. 

I guess it's all in perspective.  While being tested prior to my AN surgery, a 'mass' was discovered (via CT scan) on my liver.  My surgery, scheduled for a few days later, was quickly canceled and I was referred to an oncologist.  He immediately scheduled a biopsy of my liver.  The word 'cancer' was never mentioned but we were all thinking the same thing.  I slowly began to face the possibility that I might not make it to Christmas.  It was scary and depressing, as you can imagine.  The next day, the biopsy was performed.  The next 8 hours were excruciating but we finally received the anxiously-awaited phone call from the oncologist who was elated to inform me that the 'mass' turned out to be a Hemangioma, a type of benign tumor made up of abnormal blood vessels and not a problem.  It required no treatment and my AN surgery was re-scheduled.  Frankly, having gone through this cancer scare, my benign AN tumor now seemed a lot less threatening.   Fortunately, my surgery was successful and I suffered only a few, very minor complications.  I am eternally grateful to God for that.

However, had I suffered the kind of post-surgical complications you're dealing with, I would very likely be just as frustrated.  I'm not normally a patient man and after a lifetime of relatively good health, having my body 'fail' me would be both strange and disquieting.  I dealt with a dry eye and learning to walk 'right' again post-surgery and I resented having to do so, but I knew it had to be done.  My avatar: 'Time Heals' is accurate, especially regarding acoustic neuroma surgery recovery, but that doesn't mean that we have to like the time we're adversely affected by the eye, balance and other problems we have to endure while recovering. I sure didn't.

That said, John, this will pass, as all things do, both good and bad.  I encourage you to try, as best you can, to see the positive side of this; you didn't have cancer and you will recover.  Try to do things you like (as best you can) and don't dwell on the negative, if possible.  Your total recovery will take what time it takes.  Being frustrated and angry while recovering won't make it go any faster.   Still, you are not without reason to be upset, so vent and go on to what makes you happy.  We do understand your aggravation and are collectively praying, wishing and hoping for your rapid recovery and peace of mind.

Jim   
4.5 cm AN diagnosed 5/06.  Retrosigmoid surgery 6/06.  Follow-up FSR completed 10/06.  Tumor shrinkage & necrosis noted on last MRI.  Life is good. 

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is.  The way we cope with it is what makes the difference.

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2007, 05:58:10 pm »
John, I had a lot of bad days and people saying I could be worse off sure didn't help. Yes I could be but damn it what I got sucks. Vent away, get mad, do what you need to do....I agree the surgery was the easy part, I was asleep. Living with the after effects sucks. 


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