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webwrestler

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TransLab Approach
« on: March 29, 2007, 09:04:13 am »
Hi there,

My name is Justin and I am a new member to the AN club. I was diagnosed on Feb. 20, 2007 with a 2cm x 2cm AN. I am scheduled for surgery in Toronto (canadian from the great white north, Winnipeg, Manitoba) to have the TranLab approach in May 2007 (or sooner hopefully)

My questions are:

1) Is there any type of "funny" feeling in your ear/head after they fill it with fat from your leg/abdomen?
2) Can you feel a difference inside after this type of surgery?
3) Are there any "odd" feelings other than the obvious..i.e. hearing loss, possible facial paralysis, etc?

Thanks for your feedback

Justin

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 10:43:16 am »
Justin,
Nice to meet someone with an AN similar to mine.  In the beginning you might hear some strange sounds as the severed hearing nerve calms down, really odd, I'd say.  I experienced no sensations from the fat pack.  The profound silence on that side superceded all other things for me.  I did experience a new tinnitus pitch, but that is part of the hearing nerve thing I must accept.  In the beginning I was rather taken back that I had to learn how to ignore the new "sound".

After the physical recovery (facial, balance, scare healing, etc.) you will experience some difference in the way you relate to words, naming, and task attacking.  The feelings you will experience with these cognitive problems will dissipate best if the care givers and people around you are understanding and patient with you.  So it is important for your loved ones to know the cognitive issues are real and not imagined.  Many Translab patients adjust to these differences in time and we can get right back to work.  Just take it easy and be patient.     
« Last Edit: March 29, 2007, 10:52:23 am by Boppie »

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 11:29:23 am »
thank you Boppie for this description.  I have been wondering what it would "sound" like being deaf on my right side.  My surgery is coming in May and so my questions have been more not so much about the surgery but what I will experience internally once surgery is over.  Will I feel any different.  What does deaf sound like? 
2cm x1cm, right side
Surgery: Trans-lab approach
Dr. Jerald V. Robinson, Dr. William Hitselberger, Dr. Michael Stefan.
Hopsital: St Vincent's Hospital, Los Angeles, CA
Date of Surgery: May 18, 2007

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 11:47:15 am »
I noticed "head" noise after my surgery.  Sounded much like water running over river stones, trickling sound.  I know others experienced different sounds too, but now I am 2+ years past surgery and my trickling noise is gone.  I miss it.  I do have tinnitus, but have learned to ignor it.  I have to say I enjoy putting in an ear plug on my good ear and quite like the "silence".  I do not, however, think I would enjoy this "silence" to be permanent!  Every once in a while all the noise of everyday life takes a toll on my nerves and blocking it out now and then keeps me balanced. 
1/05 Retrosigmoid 1.5cm AN left ear, SSD
2/08 Labyrinthectomy left ear 
Dr. Patrick Antonelli Shands at University of Florida, Gainesville, FL
12/09 diagnosis of semicircular canal dehiscence right ear

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 12:16:48 pm »
Thanks for the feedback everyone....I have tinnitus in my left ear already. In December when all this started I never thought I would get used to the constant tea kettle in my ear, but surprisingly enough I have. My hearing is pretty poor in that ear so I am hoping that I have been "getting" used to not hearing out of it and the transition to permanent deafness in the ONE ear will not be too difficult.

I guess I will find out soon enough...

Justin

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 12:18:37 pm »
Boppie,

Can you expain in more detail?

"The feelings you will experience with these cognitive problems will dissipate best if the care givers and people around you are understanding and patient with you.  So it is important for your loved ones to know the cognitive issues are real and not imagined."

Thanks
J

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 01:00:45 pm »
For a short time after surgery there are mild problems with getting letters in the correct order for good spelling, math, and using a keyboard with the same facility as pre op.  Some patients call this a short term memory problem (sort of like RAM in your computer).  Your brain wants to rest, perhaps it is healing neurologically.  There is a bit of fuzziheadedness when trying to do quick recall on word order and memory.  I call it a problem with sequencing and my husband labels it a diminished ability to focus.  I am not sure how much impatience and the frustration to get recovered plays into the problem.  I know that people need to give me more time to do two tasks at the same time.  Getting tired easily is a complaint you will read about too.  I believe this is due to the need for the vestibular, ocular, response system to adjust and heal. 

There is some research out there and you might search this forum for 'cognitive' or 'cognitive disorders' and come up with the thread that addresses this subject.  There is a published paper on the research a doctor is doing on Cognitive Disorders.  I am sure several other posters will catch up with your questions and give lots more on this in the next few days. 

I would like to stress that your experience with the memory thing will be short termed.  People with very large tumors and sometimes very small ones have some strong issues with cognition, handwriting, headaches, etc.  So, as you research the cognition issues remember that you will be only mildly impacted.  Stay positive, your tumor is a medium size and like mine probably not impacting your brain stem.  Your doctor wouldn't choose TransLab if you had brainstem involvement.

I was typing at my keyboard and on this forum 4 days after I came home.  I am learning to multi task once again, just needing more patience with myself and others.

Your caregivers, family, children, and friends might enjoy a light hearted humor about your "wonkihead' at first, but you will do well to ignore hints that you are just imagining things.  Your recovery will be as good and positive as you make it for yourself and others.  Education is power.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2007, 01:06:20 pm by Boppie »

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 08:03:57 pm »
Thanks for the feedback everyone....I have tinnitus in my left ear already. In December when all this started I never thought I would get used to the constant tea kettle in my ear, but surprisingly enough I have. My hearing is pretty poor in that ear so I am hoping that I have been "getting" used to not hearing out of it and the transition to permanent deafness in the ONE ear will not be too difficult.

My hearing was mostly gone pre-op.  I could barely hear a dial tone on the AN side.  But I wasn't completely deaf.  And I have to say that post-op I've noticed no difference in what the world sounds like or what my head/ear feels like.  I think I did all the adjustment before I even had the surgery.  Once the scar heals, your head will probably feel the same.  My tinnitus did change quality (not better or worse, just a little different), and I did have to get the earpiece on my glasses adjusted - they just didn't fit quite the same around that ear anymore.  Otherwise, I can't tell the difference.

Katie
diagnosed June 2005
2.3cmx1.6cmx1.4cm left AN
translab Sept 13, 2006; Drs. McKenna and Barker in MA (MEEI/MGH)

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2007, 08:21:00 pm »
I had a retrsigmoid done on the 31st of Jan and can tell you that the posters above nailed it rather eloquently, I had little things here and there that were different but Boppie nailed it pretty good, the retosigmoid scar is different but I feel a rather dead scalp feeling around my scar.  The Single Sided Deafness is annying when it comes to locating sounds which can be tough with my two little princesses 14 months
(and running everywhere) and 4 and a half.  I need an intercom or webcam in every room because my eagle ears don't work as well.  Good Luck, you'll be recovering b4 u know it.

Cheers,

Steve
2 cm Left Acoustic Neuroma Remved on 1/31/07
Via Retro Sigmoid resection at Hospital of U of Penn - complete removal by Drs. Judy and Bigelow.
Deaf in Left ear.  Looking at TransEar for dealing with SSD

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2007, 11:31:48 pm »
After Translab...How did I feel?...

I don't recall any stuffiness or emptiness in my head.  My right face felt a little numb.  My tongue tingled or felt as if it was burned.  My ear lobe ached for a short time.  I heard ;D some weired thundering inside my head a few times.  The fat pack felt spongy soft behind my ear.  My incision stitches were awesome to look at.  They didn't hurt.  My hair was shaved off in a small crescent. The whole ear lobe felt numb for a month or so.  My skull has a dent behind the ear instead of a tight crack like it had before surgery. 

Emotionally, the most profound sensations were deafness in the ear and exhilaration that the event was over.  I did grieve for my hearing for a few days early on and I got over it by talking with my family.  Turning up permanently deaf in one ear has remained an enigma to my friends.  Acquaintances still ask if the nerve will grow back.  My 84 year old Mom can't grasp it.  I am a stronger person now than I was pre AN.  My family and I are humbled by the fantastic opportunities life offers us.

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 06:48:11 am »
Justin,
When I was diagnosed two years ago, I was at 90% hearing loss in my left ear, I had already adjusted to not hearing very well on my left side.  The transition to permanent deafness in my left ear after my translab surgery was not that noticeable to me.  I agree with Arushi about the earplug, the total silence is really nice sometimes!
Good Luck in May.

Denise
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translab 5/9/2005
CSF leak repair 6/23/2005
platinum weight in left eye 11/9/05
12/7 nerve switch 8/3/06
Univ. of MN Drs. Levine/Haines

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2007, 02:51:36 pm »
Thanks for the replies all. Well, I woke up this morning with even MORE hearing loss...I can barely even hear the dial tone anymore. On a positive note I am getting used to the lack of hearing in the one ear so the change shouldn't be as drastic for me after surgery, I hope.

I am starting to notice that when I talk i can almost hear a reverbation (right word?) in my voice on the "bad side" ... not painful just annoying..i hope this goes away now or after surgery..hmmm! Any thoughts?

Justin

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2007, 07:42:24 pm »
Justin,

That reverb, went away afte surgery for me, I just replied to you PM, I think that yu will see that althugh many of us had the same surgeries or experienced  the same side affects, your experience may be uniique in ways good, bad, inconsequential.  You have your age  and athletic personality in your corner for sure, look around there are some 20 somethings on here, I thought I was young at 40 but I am probably close to average age.  Hang in there, the waiting will seem excrutiating at times but you'll find some peace in yur determination, here's something, I did morning f surgery, I asked my wife to bring a picture of the family to the ICU and she taped it to the side of my bed where my AN was, my Neurosurgeon told me that I would have to stretch my muscles that way t recover faster, but it sure gave me incentive to mve my head.

Cheers,

Steve
2 cm Left Acoustic Neuroma Remved on 1/31/07
Via Retro Sigmoid resection at Hospital of U of Penn - complete removal by Drs. Judy and Bigelow.
Deaf in Left ear.  Looking at TransEar for dealing with SSD

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2007, 08:20:31 pm »
Steve,

Now there is incentive...I will be taking that advice, thank your wife for the great idea.

cheers,
J

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Re: TransLab Approach
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2007, 08:05:51 am »
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Undecided

I am considering this approach and am concerned with the cognitive issues.  My job is very cognitive in nature ( I am an electircal designer/engineer and I do CAD drafting and basically work with my brain rather than my brawn).  I'm wondering how long before I can return to work and function properly. 

My bosses and co-workers are very understanding as I'm the queen of "weird" medical issues and they have always been extremely supportive!!!  They now understand why I'm always saying.......Is that my phone ringing?  or Huh?, Pardon, I'm sorry, What?........etc., and don't look at me weird when I ask them to stand or sit on my "good" side!!!

Will educating everyone be enough or will I not be able to do my job?????

Thanks to all you forum folks.  This place is extremely helpful to me.