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Dusty

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Tinnitus after surgery
« on: May 29, 2009, 08:51:27 am »
I had tinnitus in my AN ear before surgery and now 2 1/2 months after surgery I am still suffering from tinnitus in my post AN ear.  The doctors tell me this is a phantom ring since the nerve was cut.  Has anyone else had this phantom tinnitus and does it ever go away?  Need to figure out how to deal with this if it is going to continue.

Diagnosed 6/2008 Right AN 8mmx11mmx12mm
Tinnitus, vertigo & pressure
MRI 1/2009 - AN 14mmx12mmx13mm
Surgery Schedule 3/16/2009 Drs. Antonelli and Lewis
Surgery Completed 3/16/2009 AN removed and accoustic nerve cut.
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 08:54:34 am »
"phantom ring"

I was told  this too. I have had no change since surgery almost 2 years ago ... but maybe others might chime in here that did have a change.

I find when I wear an ear plug in the good ear, as a filter, I can control the tinnitus from the "dead ear".

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 09:01:07 am »
I have it also and for some reason I'd accepted it that I would have it forever now, I don't remember if someone told me that?  I would love for it to go away!  When I went to my follow-up I asked the Dr. if the earwax would still work its way out on its own and he said that the ear and all parts are still intact, just that the hearing nerve was cut, so it would do its job.  All that to say that maybe I'm not actually "hearing" the tinnitis as I am "feeling" it??
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 09:13:06 am »
Hi Dusty,

I had slight T before surgery in '04 .... and now big-time T since.  I try not to let it rule my life by being involved in as much as I can in many other things. 

Suggest you seek lotsa info about it on this forum and other places (e.g. Am. Tinnitus Assoc: www.ata.org , and Kates's website  http://anworld.com ).  I also hope that sometime in the future, medical science will find cures.

I wish you well as you learn more about it.

Greg
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Drs. Henry Brem & Michael Holliday @ Johns Hopkins, Baltimore
SSD right. Tinnitus big-time, only when thinking of it.
BAHA since 7/20/10 ... really helps w/ hearing, specially after programming in subliminal message: "Hey, don't listen to your tinnitus!"

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 09:25:44 am »
Oh, I am so hoping someone chimes in here and says "Yes, mine went away."  I had only slight tinnitus pre-op and only mild immediately post-op.  Now it seems to be much worse than ever.  Most of the time I can successfully block it out, or at least divert my focus.  In a place with much ambient noise (restaurants, places with background music, etc.), the tinnitus becomes much worse.

I'm with Greg that I hope someday medical science will find a cure.

Clarice
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Dusty

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 09:33:11 am »
Thanks for the feedback.  I do use a sound machine at night that helps with sleeping and I have learned to somewhat deal with it during the day with 'mind control'.  I was so hoping and was somewhat led to believe the ringing would go away if the nerve was cut.  This will not rule my life but it sure would be nice if my head was quiet for even 5 minutes.
Diagnosed 6/2008 Right AN 8mmx11mmx12mm
Tinnitus, vertigo & pressure
MRI 1/2009 - AN 14mmx12mmx13mm
Surgery Schedule 3/16/2009 Drs. Antonelli and Lewis
Surgery Completed 3/16/2009 AN removed and accoustic nerve cut.
SSD

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 11:03:02 am »
I had tinnitus on the AN side prior to surgery. Post op it seems stronger. That could be because I still had some hearing on the AN side pre-surgery and have zero after....maybe the tinnitus level is the same, but since that's all I hear over there now....maybe it just seems like it's louder.

While I don't believe it's "phantom", I do think it is at least part mental....If I think about it, yes it's bothersome. However, I've learned to mentally block it out 95% of the time.

Patrick
3.5cm left side AN; 11 hour retrosigmoid surgery 8/11/08 @ Memorial Hermann, Houston - Texas Medical Center with Drs. Chang and Vollmer; home on 8/13/08;
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 08:25:37 am »
It was the sequence of events initiated by my tinnitus acting up that lead to the discovery of my AN. So I guess my annoyingly constant companion for the last several years proved to be at least a little useful.

It was explained to me by an ENT that all tinnitus is a "phantom" type of noise. The way he explained it was that the aural decoding section of your brain demands input. When you have reduced input from your ears, for whatever reason...it sometimes starts to "make up" it's own input to keep it busy. Kind of a 'the devil makes work for idle hands" type of event. My understanding was that there really isn't any "noise" just brain activity that we preceive as noise. This is very much in layman terms but it does help explain why those with no intact acoustic nerve would still "hear" sounds from that side of their head.

The www.ata.org website does have some suggestions about factors that can make tinnitus worse, and conversely the elimination of those factors can sometimes make the perceived noise less. A difficulty though is that finding the things that make your personal case of tinnitus less loud could take quite a bit of experimentation and giving up some things you really enjoy or "need", such as caffiene. I know not what course others may take, as for me..give me coffee or I'll be a real grump-ball.

Although I've lived with tinnitus for many years, mine did get noticibly louder post-op... I just cranked up the ignore and cope levels of my psyche. Some days I need a "This is Spinal Tap" type of mechanism where the numbers go to eleven instead of ten.

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 12:17:52 pm »
My understanding was that there really isn't any "noise" just brain activity that we perceive as noise.

I think that is the key thing to understand about tinnitus: there is no sound. It seems to me that if I point that out to myself emphatically, it helps my brain ignore it.

Except when I am thinking about it, of course. ;)

Steve
8 mm left AN June 2007,  CK at Stanford Sept 2007.
Hearing lasted a while, but left side is deaf now.
Right side is weak too. Life is quiet.

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 03:21:57 pm »
Dusty -

I don't suffer from tinnitus, but it seems to me from what I've read on the Forum that those who have it pre op generally have it post op.

Surgery doesn't seem to have any effect - either negative or positive - on tinnitus.

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 03:59:51 pm »
My T went away post surgery. I commented on this on another thread. I was so use to being serenated at bedtime, now the lack of noise is weird and I miss my bubbling brook and singing crickets. Pre op my T was there loud and clear but not to annoying.
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 11:16:37 pm »
Unfortunately, mine is high shrill 24/7 which I can't seem to mask. It is as if it fills my whole left side of head >:(
I was reading on the ATA website, and there was recently a walk, organized by a woman who had an AN removed and suffered severe tinnitus on the affected side.
She is probably still on the opening page.
I made a donation to the cause and plan to follow along through the years, hoping for some sort of medical breakthrough. Please! :(
Until then, I just plug along and go outdoors as much as possible which seems to help.
Maureen
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 11:54:01 am »
Try an earplug (one that does not block all the sound but more filters it- such as the Rite Aid generic brand that is purple) in the hearing ear ... see if you notice a change.

 (My tinnitus is responsive to sound - such as fans ... my husband's deep voice... the worst being his snoring  ;) so at night I do not wear an earplug just I put my good hearing ear to the pillow  :D).

No really- give it a try and see if this helps.

DHM
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2009, 03:48:38 pm »
I also discovered AN due to annoyance of the constant ring...i'm one year out & its still going strong i even have it in my good ear now.Most days i do not notice it but others it gets loud.
2cm removed retrosig 6/26/08
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Re: Tinnitus after surgery
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2009, 09:30:38 am »
I do notice that an ear plug in the "good" ear helps to  buffer all the extraneous noise, and thus prevents the rise in intensity of the "bad" ear.
But it's still pretty bad:(
Maureen
06/06-Translab 3x2.5 vascular L AN- MAMC,Tacoma WA
Facial nerve cut,reanastomosed.Tarsorrhaphy
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