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Nancy Drew

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Vertigo as first symptom
« on: January 14, 2006, 12:40:44 pm »
Did any of you go to the doctor in the beginning with only the vertigo?MRI showed 4x5 mm AN.No hearing loss or other symptoms except possiblly some tinnitis (which has only just started) that doesn't bother me much at all.AN doc said vertigo is not usually a presenting symptom and might be a migraine headache without the headache.The strange thing to me, after taking this all in, is that I had the vertigo every day for over a month.It was happening about an hour every morning after waking up, and it lasted anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours.I had to wait it out,disabling.The spinning was like you see when you pull the handle on a slot machine.Sitting down helped some, but any movement at all, or even closing my eyes, would set it off like crazy.Whenever it was over I didn't have it for the rest of the day--like back to my regular self.Now that I have had time to absorb all of this (diagnosed one month ago), I just don't get what that vertigo was all about.Beginning to question the migraine theory.What do you think about the vertigo?
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2006, 01:32:58 pm »
I first had veritigo for over 6 weeks about 3 years before my dx. It went away on its own. 3 years later is came back and never left until surgery day. It definitely was my first symptom and the only one that caused me to go to the doctor.
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2006, 03:59:06 pm »
Nancy,

Everyone has different symptoms with their AN's depending on it's positioning in the head and what nerves it's hitting or pressing on.

The only symptom I had was a deterioration of hearing.


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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 09:00:24 am »
Nancy, my first symptom was vertigo, although I don't think mine was as bad as what you're describing. The spinning/dizziness/lack of balance was what made me go to the doctor in the first place. When the typical inner-ear treatments didn't work, he sent me for an MRI and (happy day!) they found the AN.

If your experience is anything like mine, you'll have a hard time finding a doctor that will tell you that your AN and your vertigo are related. I saw five doctors (primary, balance disorders doctor, local neurosurgeon, and two radiation oncologists) before the neurosurgeon at the hospital where I had my radiosurgery told me that the AN was probably the cause of my vertigo. Prior to that, the doctors would say "what do you mean you're not deaf? We're sending you for a hearing test" or "there's no way the vertigo is caused by the tumor, come back in a week and let us blow some air and water into your ears."

Finally, the day before my radiosurgery, I asked the neurosurgeon about the vertigo and he said that, while it could be caused by something else, he'd be willing to blame the vertigo on the AN. He said that since we know there's a tumor sitting on the nerve in charge of balance, it's often best to assume that is the most likely cause.
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 11:38:44 am »
My surgeon definitely said that the vertigo was caused by my tumor. There was no question. The ENT that sent me for the MRI thought I might have an AN because of my vertigo coupled with facial numbness. I had no hearing loss.   My vertigo was non-stop and by the end I could hardly get out of bed and nothing made it go away.
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2006, 08:27:45 pm »
Hi
  I've had 2 ANs and must say vertigo was the first indicator in the second tumor. It was incapacitating for 3 or 4 days at a time. There were 3 separate occurences of this vertigo.
  I know literature says ANs do not usually present with true vertigo but with more of a dizzy feeling. Nothing is ground in stone with these ANs.
  Best wishes!
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2006, 09:40:26 am »
Hi,
Our ANA/NJ Jan 2006 newsletter (www.ananj.org) has information/data  about vertigo as an early symptom -- especially of small ANs.

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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2006, 10:43:30 am »
I started having intense dizzy spells at the age of 11; but they only would occur occasionally and did not last long. The last time I had one was in 1987 or so. In 1983 I was afflicted with an inner ear infection that knocked me off my feet for about a week. I woke one morning and the room was spinning and it stayed like that for days. It eventually went away. The doctor refered to it as "viral vestibulitis". I remember that it was building up to that for weeks before because my vision had been giving me some trouble.
  After my recent surgery I realized that the tumor had been with me since childhood and that is why it grew to the proportions it did : 5cm x 5cm!! I'm lucky to have survived. My paternal grandfather died from a non-cancerous brain tumor in 1941.

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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2006, 10:55:53 am »
My first symptom was vertigo as well. It was especially bad when I was in bed and would suddenly sit up or turn over. My head felt as though it was going backwards. Sometimes when I was sitting or standing, the whole room seemed to tilt to one side. It was off and on, although the symptoms in bed were pretty much continuous. I also had a feeling of fullness in my AN ear (right). My ENT thought it might be sinuses but after it persisted she ordered an MRI. It revealed a 4mm AN. After two MRIs every 6 months, it had grown to 5mm and my speech discrimination threshold had diminished. It was one of those "I can hear you but I can't figure out what you're saying". I had middle fossa surgery at House on Nov 8, 2005. Apparently, because I had already been coping with unsteadiness, I had very little vertigo or dizziness after surgery. I was walking on the 2nd day and even reading. I did develop delayed facial weakness but it has almost disappeared except for incomplete blinking. I can close my eye though. The surgery revealed that the AN was 6mm.
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2006, 07:43:19 pm »
My first symptom was hearing loss and a feeling of light headedness for about an hour a day for a few days . Within 5 days, I had full blown vertigo, killer headache, no hearing in left ear and facial paralysis. All of that for a little 8mm x 6mm an. I had GK in August , a base MRI in September and I go back for another MRI in March.
This is my first message. But I've been avidly reading this site since my diagnosis in May. Great support and lots of answers.
8mm x 6mm AN left side
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2006, 07:49:25 pm »
Minnkris,

Your outcome seems very strange. I am thinking of GK for my re-growth as i have read a lot of positive outcomes from it. Are your problems improving at all and what are you doing about them.


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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2006, 08:33:28 pm »
Hello Minnkris,


I am wondering if you perhaps had a viral attack after those first few days? Did a doctor see you at that time? What did he/she say?

Sounds like it to me but then that's what i had when my first vertigo symptoms showed up..... couldn't sit up in bed to eat for weeks... months of crazy vertigo.

A long number of years later i was diagnosed with an An. At the time of radiation it was just under 2 cm.


Best wishes in your treatment for your An.

Windsong



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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2006, 06:09:04 pm »
I did see a doctor really quickly, of course everything was at its worse on a Saturday night, so I went to a Quick Care on Sunday Morning. They did prescribe anti-viral med and anti-biotics, I think. On Monday, I was sent to the emergency room at the hospital across the street from the Quick Care. Boy, do I wish I'd gone there first. But, anyway, I got a CAT scan, an EKG and some blood work at the hospital. They put me on a steroid pack and possibly that might be where I got some of the other meds. I really don't recall, I was really sick!  Then I was sent to an ENT specialist, who ordered the MRI. I thought for a week and a half that I had a really bad ear infection, until the ENT told me there was no fluid in my ear and there never was. Anyway all I have left of the symptoms is about 30% hearing loss in left ear with tinitus, dry left eye  and left side of tongue, and some balance issues. Not too bad for the way things started. Thanks for asking. The GK was a breeze.
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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2006, 11:00:56 am »
Vertigo was my ONLY symptom, and was very much as you have described.  I was not able to do anything including driving a car for a couple of months, as my spinning was extreme.  At times I had to hold onto the wall to walk!  Doctor tried me on dramamine type med, no help, then on valium which helped a bit (of course I was sleeping because of it too!).  ANs are NERVE tumors.  They grow from the nerves that send messages from your inner ear to your brain.  My tumor was affecting the message the nerve was sending to my brain and telling my brain that the world was spinning.  Fortunately, the brain will start to compensate and the dizziness should decrease.  I have read many postings where the symptom for a person's AN is dizziness and vertigo.  Certainly, dizziness and vertigo can be caused by other disorders/diseases, but I would want to rule out an AN.  I had FSR four years ago and had great results.  Best to you all!

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Re: Vertigo as first symptom
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2006, 03:51:19 pm »
Nancy, my first any only symptom was vertigo. I called it dizziness, but it's quite different to being dizzy.  I have a 2.5x2cm AN left side. Guess i was lucky i had a good GP who sent me for a scan with only the vertigo.  That was 6 weeks ago, now have a little tinnitus, but hearing is still great!  I'm having retrosigmoid surgery in 3 weeks, Apr 26.  It's a little sad that even tho my hearing is perfect i'm probably going to lose it, but  'cest la vie'!  I hope everything turns out ok for you nancy :)  stay positive!!  ;D
2.5cm AN removed 26/4/06 retrosigmoid
awaiting follow up MRI