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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 05:16:32 am »
...and this is why I love a lively discussion! :)

IMO, passions run high for each of us in our own ways.  I commend you all for sharing and listening and respecting each of our own emotions in sharing certain aspects of our AN journey that we have shared with each other here. This discussion certain demonstrates our inner wills, our mental strength, our resolve, our compassion for others that share a common denominator called AN's.

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 06:40:26 am »
Gee Steve,  I thought I already have shown my compassion and concern for people's mental well being.

Uh oh, I have been misunderstood, my apologies, Holly.  Here is what I meant to say:

When I said

"I also want to see Nurse Holly jump in with her boundless compassion and concern for people's mental well being. Having both is what makes this forum so good."

I meant: I want to continue to see you jump in with your boundless compassion and concern for people's mental well being, as you always do.

I was trying to say to Renee that I want to see both her point of view, with all of its true grit, and your point of view, with your concern for people getting the wrong impression about ANs. I think having both makes it a better forum.

Sorry for not making myself clear, I hope it makes sense now.

Steve



  Thank you Steve for your response.  After writing my last post I thought I might have been too harsh and defensive, not a good thing.  I love this forum and I do try to respond to those in need.  Finding this "place in space" has been a source of inspiration for me and I feel quite sensitive to those who are newly diagnosed and looking for support along their own personal journey.  That is the reason that I wanted this discussion moved from Sam and Adrian's post because that belongs to them and I wanted it to stay that way.  That young couple should inspire all of us.  You are a very honest man to come forward and "right your wrong" and that is honerable and I thank you very much for.  I needed it.  Have a great day,  "Nurse Holly"  :)       
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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2007, 11:59:25 am »
Defensive ?Hmmm.............
hi renee,ever been to the haight/ashbury area ?
 
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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 12:05:23 pm »
Defensive ?Hmmm.............
hi renee,ever been to the haight/ashbury area ?
 

gotta love San Fran! One of my fave cities to spend time. :)
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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2007, 01:50:30 pm »
Haight/ashbury?
Yes, I have visted. I have several friends in the bay area + berkley. I generally travel between San Diego and Santa Monica/Venice/Topanga. My dad lives in Virginia, my sister Portland and I was born in Indiana.

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2007, 03:40:00 pm »
hi renee,you have stumbled into a very supportive group,welcome.
i grew up in los angeles,went to santa monica jr high,graduated from hollywood high.
i sense you got off to a rough start,as with AN's , all shall mend.
kicked my little 8cm buddy to the curb-c ya !

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2007, 04:28:25 pm »
Hello again, Renee:

Thanks for the updated post. 

I'm sorry you felt a bit beleaguered and 'picked apart' by earlier posts that commented on your YouTube video but when you choose to place a video on the internet, you have to be cognizant of the fact that many people will view it and none of them will know you.  That removes context and can result in misunderstandings.  The same applies to internet message board postings.  We're all somewhat anonymous but that gives us more latitude to be honest about our fears, worries, frustrations and joys - and to criticize when we feel some skepticism is justified, which was the case here.  I can tell from your post that you've already recognized that this forum is populated by a lot of very compassionate people.  Adversity tends to have that effect.  One either becomes bitter and resentful or more open, hopeful and compassionate.  You're a perfect example of that, Renee.   Placing your video, paralyzed face and all, on the internet to share your story in a graphic way and to offer hope to others in your former situation is commendable.  That your video comments generated a few questions and skepticism from other AN patients, close to the issue and knowing that mortality from acoustic neuroma tumors is ridiculously low, should not upset you.  No one here knows you personally and most of us tend to have a certain degree of skepticism regarding almost anything posted on YouTube

You're correct in reminding us that you are a peer.  That is exactly why your video was of interest to us and why you were welcomed here.  You are also correct in pointing out that you had the courage to show your face (on the video) in a semi-paralyzed condition, which was clearly difficult for you, as one would expect.  You seem to feel slighted that no one commented on that aspect of the video.  Actually, we did, by praising your courage.  Apparently you overlooked those comments or, more likely, did not apply them as they were intended.  I trust that misunderstanding is now past us.  You have, indeed, had suffering in your life, Renee.  So have we all.  The majority of the people posting here are somewhat older than you and, because of having an acoustic neuroma tumor, have had to see successful careers sidetracked, good jobs lost and even marriages tested more than they should be.  A few have even gone into depression.  Some had friends basically abandon them because they didn't understand what the AN patient, who 'looked fine', was really going through.  Trust me, we know about suffering, Renee.  We really do.

I stand by my opinion that someone totally ignorant of acoustic neuroma tumors, watching your compelling video - as it stands - would come away from it assuming that an acoustic neuroma diagnosis equals a quick death and only a miracle (and iron will) could prevent it.  That would be as unfortunate as it is untrue.   Yes, your story is certainly inspiring because it has a happy ending but I can tell you from experience that many people will only see/hear the 'two weeks to live' part of your video and then jump to mistaken conclusions regarding the mortality rate associated with an acoustic neuroma.  I trust that your promised addendum (to your video) will clarify the matter and bring a better level of understanding about the - as you stated it - unique situation you were in at the time of your diagnosis.  I want to add that I don't view folks who suffer debilitating symptoms (as you did) and then receive a diagnosis of an acoustic neuroma tumor and freak out (for awhile, anyway) as weak or otherwise lacking in personal courage.  They are simply human.   

We come from very different backgrounds (and eras) but I think we share the same goal, Renee: encouraging those diagnosed with an acoustic neuroma tumor.  Once again, I regret any misunderstandings and subsequent resentment you may have experienced as a result of comments made on this message board regarding your video, but, as I mentioned earlier, public exposure to an 'audience' that knows little-to-nothing about you can sometimes bring unwarranted (and unwelcome) criticism.  The folks that post here are truly compassionate but also hyper-sensitive to mis-information regarding AN tumors.  They have good reason to be.  Fortunately, you took the time post here and  clarify your experience for us.  We truly appreciate that, as well as your good wishes for us all.   Of course, we offer the same understanding and encouragement to you.  Now, don't be a stranger!

Jim

 

4.5 cm AN diagnosed 5/06.  Retrosigmoid surgery 6/06.  Follow-up FSR completed 10/06.  Tumor shrinkage & necrosis noted on last MRI.  Life is good. 

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is.  The way we cope with it is what makes the difference.

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Renee's video/slideshow
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2007, 04:37:45 pm »
Hi All,

Many blessings to you and thank you for your comments. I want to clarify, as I did in an earlier post- I did not actually put the video on Youtube. I did not even know it was there until months later. The director put it up to show his work. He has other films there, too :) One of them won some awards. It was made for a 48 hour film festival of inspiring films called "elevate film festival" in LA. If any of you live there, I invite you to look them up on the web. The gathering is amazing so if you get a chance, go.
I have been so blessed with great support in my communities, not AN, but just general healing friendships with creators, artists and lovers of life who have never seen me as different since the surgery. Before I had surgery I did unfortunatley visit a forum that was very very depressiing and many people in so much pain, they seemed they were wallowing in it. One I remeber standing out to me was the suicidal nature that some felt gong through facial nerve damage, as well as belly's palsy patients. Of course I did not want this to be my reality, but when it was, and when I experienced such great healing, it made me proud that I could share new possibilities to those struggling with it. I am so happy that all of you moved forward and created a more conscious forum than the one I saw two and half years ago!

I also have another slideshow that you can check out if interested:
http://www257.rockyou.com/show_my_gallery2.php?instanceid=43792963

Smiles, I like to share
Renee
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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2007, 08:58:51 pm »
Renee ... Firstly I want to commend you on your video on youtube!  I have sent that link to many friends, family and co-workers so they know can learn what maybe to expect when I have surgery.

Here is my story ....  and firstly let me apologize that I am not any where near as eloquent a writer as anyone who has posted on here - - I seem to have alot of 'brain fuzz' lately :(

Before I was even diagnosed as having an AN I was told by one of my mommy friends on my mommy board that I should 'google' acoustic neuroma ... as my symptoms were the same as what my mommy friends dad had.  I learned a lot about this condition even before I was sent for my MRI - so I already knew that these were benign tumors but 'like the rest of us I NEVER thought for one minute that I would be told that I had a brain tumor - I just figured it would be some sort of weird virus and I would have to learn to live with it .... when I was told that it indeed was a neuroma my 'mortality' flashed before my eyes!  I cried not for myself  but for my boy's.

I am 43 years old - and I conceived my first child (FINALLY) at 35 years old (with some intervention) - I  lost a child in the 5th month of pregnancy and have had another son since )just months shy of my 40th BD) - he will be 4 on Halloween - and he starts kindergarten this coming Tues. Sept 4th!!!! :(

I am scared beyond believe but try not to emmulate that to anyone around me - My ENT told me tht they will probaby recommend surgery since my hearing on the left side is only at 25%, I am getting headaches, 'brain fog', tintinitus, and some 'loopyness' (like I having that first drink on an empty stomach' :O

Your video brought to me the reality of this and I commend you!  My biggest fear is not the actual surgery but the post-op - I am not anywhere near as beautiful as you and the whole facial thing scares me tremendously.  My tumor (I guess) would be considered small to med. (1.5 - 2 cm) - I am still in schock that I actually have this (I was diagnosed in late July) - - my only symptom was a sudden hearing loss in Dec. '06 but things have progressively been getting worse.

I guess I should be thankful that they found something as most people go thru all sorts of tests for different things and they are never concluded.

I just want to THANK YOU for putting a face to this condition!

We have an AN site here in Canada but unfortunately is does not seem to get the traffic that this one does.  Once again thank you and God Bless and iif you ever decide to visit the 'Great White North' let me know....

You truly are an inspiration as are all the AN patients on here!

THANK YOU!

p.s.  I FINALLY have an appointment with one of our Cdn' world renowned specialists on Sept. 25th - I was joking with the gals at work that I must have a HUGE brain as I have (2) cds full of images to take with me to the appointment.
- Oct. 16/08 - 12 hour 'blob-ectomy' at LHSC in London, ON - Dr. Lownie and Parnes
- Some internal facial numbness (cheek, tongue, eye), SSD, headaches (getting better), dry eye, some balance issues..... but othwise AWESOME!

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2007, 10:59:49 pm »
Denise-

Yes, one goes through a roller coaster of emotions before, during and after diagnosis of the AN. You are so not alone..I am glad that you now know!
My advice would be to get as much info as possible about surgery and radiosurgery options and wait until you find what you are totally aligned with as the best choice. For sure find the surgeon whom has successfully done the most AN surgeries. I was told by my doc's that facial nerve damage is less than 1% these days. I was that lucky 1%! But my tumor sounds world's of difference from yours.
We support you and honor the situation you are in. Feel free to personally email me if you have specific questions. I can tell you all of what I believe helped me in recovery...from hypnosis to prayer and visualization.
Lots of love
R

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2007, 11:21:01 pm »
I had a nice visit with my son tonight (he picked up the salmon and brought it over, then grilled it, yum) and before he left I showed him your video. He sat down and watched  with me and afterwards his first comments were about your courage in so many ways, and in the fact that you had even made this video and had the courage to include your face post surgery before the healing took place. He admired you and complimented you on your determination, and your healing process and approach. I was glad I could show him this as it let him know that despite what can happen to one, one can with the support of good people and self determination and prayer and various healing modalities, make good things happen. For myself it made me calmer about some weird effects I have had on a couple of occasions with my own smile which has thankfully settled down ( i think it was nerves being irritated either from the An or from the radiation treatment that I had.)

Again thanks so much for sharing this.

all the best,
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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2007, 11:56:37 pm »
Renee's slideshow link has a slide with the caption "But most of all: LOVE vulnerable & raw".

That is what I love about this thread. Renee, Holly, Jim, everyone, posting from their heart. It is vulnerable and raw; it takes two or three replies to communicate successfully; there are misunderstandings and hurt feelings and dismay; but there is reconciliation, and new understanding, and huggles in the end.

I'm sure I will find some more threads in which to discuss the technical details of this or that treatment, and I will enjoy that as well, because I like that kind of stuff. But I will always value this kind of thread the most, because it is about what it feels like to have a life changing experience, and what it is like to put together a new life afterwards.

Thank you all for sticking with it and making it a great exchange.

Steve

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Hearing lasted a while, but left side is deaf now.
Right side is weak too. Life is quiet.

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2007, 11:09:28 am »
Jim:

Hello, I forgot I had not written back to you, yet :)
Thanks for your heartfelt comments.
All is well. I did feel I wanted to come here and shed some clarity about the film, since in the beginning there were several slighting comments. I have learned to be curious and ask questions, or so I thought until I wrote with some defensiveness and did not shed all the compassion that I could. I realized it was not about "someone not believing me" (even though that is what was said..) but it was more about wanting to help and protect other people. That is aligned with me.
I tried several times yesterday to make a note on youtube and for some reason the comment would not post.. I will stick with that until it happens.
Have a wonderful weekend and do something fun :-*
Blessings
Renee Airya

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2007, 12:35:18 pm »
Hi Renee,

I would like to thank you too for being able to share so much of what it is like to have an AN with so many people.  I have recently met another person that just had AN surgery (4 months ago). Now that was something special.  To see someone else going through the same kinds of things that I had only recently endured was very emotional for me.  We had a great few hours together and will keep in touch for sure.  I know his pain.  And if i could, I would not have anyone else have to go through any of this ever again.

I also would never have my children go through the terrible pain of believing their mother was going to die from  a brain tumor. But that is what happened when an uninformed and egocentric ER doctor decided to tell my family something that was far from the truth. I cannot tell you how terrible it was to watch my three kids standing there, beside my bed, crying and crying.  I would do anything on this planet to not see that again.  Our world turned upside down for a day and a half, until the neurosurgeon came to my hospital room and explained that I was not going to die. What a roller coaster ride that should have never happened!

After watching your video, I did think it was informative for people that may be having to deal with all this.  It is uplifting to see someone with such determination doing so well.  That is the wonderful human spirit. I only wish it had not had the death sentence attached to it.  For most people that watch it, they will enjoy the entire video, but for a small percentage of lost souls, they will hang on every word because they are so freightened and unaware.  They will think that they are going to die, or someone they love is going to die. I would like to ask you if you would consider omitting the part that tallks about imminent death. 

I am one of the ones that had a pretty horrible experience with this whole ordeal.  I do except everything that God has given me.  I cannot change the fact that I had an acoustic neuroma, but I sure will try to change needless worrying and heart ache.

I hope you recieve this letter with the good intention that it was meant.
Take care
Pattibobatti
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  retrosigmoid
  paralysis, cornea transplant,avascular necrosis

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Re: Renee's video
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2007, 01:53:09 pm »
Pattibobatti-

Oh, thanks so much for sharing :)

Glad you are still here!! and thanks for the video comments. I totally understand your concerns and want to address them. As I have mentioned many times on this thread- this is a documentary about me and my story. I am not an AN educator, nor was this film made to be that way. I also understand that people who "stumble upon it", may not know that. I  CAN NOT be have the film changed. It was done for a film festival and out of my hands. I do not own the rights. I am however adding a remark on the youtube page regarding this and the unique situation of my tumor, giving persons this ANAUSA.ORG website address. To avoid misunderstandings and urgent feelings.

Also, bear in mind, that I did not make this film. I was sat down for a few hours and told my journey. I had nothing to do with the editing, or the final cut. Had I actually made the film, It would have been quite different, and would have included the whole story- but again.. I was invited to do a film festival and in the end, the hunderds of people whom have been effected positively from it is very incrediable. It is not meant to scare someone...

As an adult, and know that I was very young- 29 when I got diagnosed,  I knew where to go and what to look at to find educational sources. This was certainly no challenge to me. I also do not feel that when receiving an AN diagosis that most persons would first go to Youtube as a resource. In fact, when I just did a google search youtube does does not even come up, this website is the first one listed, with many other sites following! Seems to me that there are some internet savy and AN interested individuals on this site and my film is just now being discussed here although it was made two years ago!  I bring this up because I truly feel in my heart of hearts that we can all release the "fears" of the death statement and let it be what it is: my story. AND I am attaching a comment to appease the worried minds :)

The other thing to note, for contrast:  Sites like this are supportive after one has had surgery, but when I was newly diagnosed they gave me fear. It was not a pretty picture that I would have surgery, but probably have all these extra problems afterward.. Even if you look at most topic headers, they are post-op Problems.. which is certainly not encouraging and one for sure takes away "my life will never be the same again.." That is one reason why I have NEVER even visited this or any AN site since I had surgery til now to comment on the video.  I personally think that many "things that just have to be lived with" can indeed be transformed with the right healing. That is the perspective I want to bring. Several issues mentioned on threads omit the possibility of healing. I know spontanious miracles have occured outside of these "facts", or experiences, from hearing loss, to nerve issues, to radiation damage, etc.  There are many, many alternative and safe and totally effective ways of creating higher health without limitations of "what doctors say are possible". So, you see, I also have "fears" that people get the wrong information from the web, too. It is a matter of perspective. I feel the mind is limiting (unless harnessed correctly) but the spirit is eternal. That is why I stand by sharing. That is the way to love, growth and support. It makes the world go round!!

Peace and love
Renee
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