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Elda

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Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« on: August 19, 2008, 06:46:04 pm »
I had a very bad yet fortunately unusual unsuccessful surgery for a BAHA. I had the surgery in November after having an acoustic neuroma removed 6 years ago. The surgery seemed to be healing well until February when the skin graft got infected. That still wasn't unusual and the infection went away, but the skin did not join together. Instead, the hole around the post got larger and larger exposing more skull. Every day, my husband has had to treat the area with antibiotic to prevent infection. No swimming! Finally, in July, I was able to see a specialist about this. Apparently, the bone underneath the skin graft is unhealthy and will have to be removed.... about 4cm in diameter of bone.  Then, skin will be pulled over to cover the area. This is so unusual, that my ENT has asked if she can publish the results. I agreed as I feel people should know about possible dangerous side effects. Apparently, this has happened as a result of my previous retrosigmoid surgery weakening the bone and circulation system. Has anyone else had problems post op with a BAHA aftter acoustic neuroma surgery, particularly retrosigmoid approach?

The pictures are pretty dramatic, if I could figure out how to post them....
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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 07:02:56 pm »
Yikes Elda how terrible for you. Glad you finally are going to get things resolved. Sending healing vibes your way.
Michelle  :o
Retrosigmond surgery on June 4th, 2008 for an AN. 100% hearing loss and facial paralysis (was not prepared for facial paralysis). Size: 2.3 cm, 2.1 cm, 1.8 cm. some tumour remains along facial nerve. Pray for no regrowth. Misdiagnosed for 10 yrs.

Elda

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 07:21:11 pm »
Thanks, Michelle.  I see you had your AN removed exactly 6 years after I did!  Good luck on your recovery!
Elda



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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 09:50:22 pm »
H'm so sorry what you had to go thru these past 6 months.  That was terrible.
Apparently it doesn't happen very often, but of course, it had to be you.  I agree that people should know about dangerous side effects, so they can make their own decision.
Thanks for posting your problems with it....and know I will be praying for you.  I hope they can get it to work.......and in the end, things will be fine.
Blessings,
Lacey
Diagnosed 4/15/08.
AN - 1.4 cm.  Translab surgery 6-26-08.  SPF leak 7-5-08, and went back into surgery 7 -6-08.
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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 09:57:44 pm »
Elda -

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience with BAHA surgery.

I had surgery in March, approximately nine months after my retrosigmoid surgery, and have had no problems whatsoever.  My BAHA site healed very quickly.  It sounds like what you encountered is quite rare.  While I have heard of infections on the BAHA site, they are usually minor, short lasting, and are normally treated with antibiotic ointment. 

I'm confused about your reference to "skin graft" as BAHA surgery doesn't typically involve a skin graft.  Are you talking about the piece of your scalp that the doctor peeled back and then used to cover the titanium fixture?   

My neurotologist, who did both my retrosigmoid and BAHA surgeries, has done well over 200 BAHA surgeries and to my knowledge has never had a patient with a problem like yours.  Sounds like unfortunately you are the "victim" of a highly usual event.

Jan

Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

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Elda

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 09:34:49 am »
Jan- yes with the skin graft, I am talking about the piece of skin that was peeled back, thinned, then put back where the titanium piece is.  I looked at your pictures (and am wondering how you posted them!) and noticed that your BAHA site is significantly higher than mine.  I am wondering if that made a difference to this failing?  The doctors' feeling is that the scar from my previous operation did not allow enough circulation in the skin and also that the bone underneath was not good bone due to the previous operation.  Of course, this is all in retrospect to explain why such a strange thing would have happened!

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 02:36:12 pm »
Elda

I am so sorry to hear about your ordeal you are definitely in my prayers.  I have not yet had my AN removed (surgery is still on for October 7th) so obviously I haven't had a BAHA experience of my own but I spoke with my sister's boyfriend's brother (whew) who has two BAHAs (he had a rare double ear infection that went into the skull and nerves) and he mentioned that the doctors had to move his jaw muscles when they installed the titanium pieces.  So instead of the 1.5 hour surgery he and his family were expecting he was under for 5 hours. I wasn't aware that this was a possibility and I was wondering if anyone who posts had this or a similar issue. 

Best of luck, Elda

Mo
1 cm left side AN
Surgery scheduled at Duke University Hospital October 7th
Translab - Drs. Sampson, Tucci, and Fukushima

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 04:26:04 pm »
Mo Ro -

just curious, does your sister's boyfriend's brother have two BAHAs or two Cochlears?  BAHAs are commonly used for unilateral (single-sided deafness) and Cochlears for bilateral (complete) deafness.  BAHA implants and Cochlear implants are similar, though not the same.  The one major difference I know of is that Cochlears have visible wires, BAHAs do not.

Elda -

posting pictures is easy and I can definitely tell you how to do that, but I'm not sure I want to see pictures of your failed BAHA surgery if they are "pretty dramatic" - not that it's my job to censor things on the forum  ;)  I understand your statement about the skin graft now, but technically it's not a skin graft since the skin wasn't taken from another part of your body.  No big deal, I just don't want to give BAHA candidates a confusing "picture".

I don't know how docs decide where to place the BAHA implant, it must have something to do with the location of your bones since I know the BAHA works through bone conduction.  Lori (lori67) has mentioned that her site is not in the same place as mine, but I can't recall if it's higher or lower.

I'm not sure how the scar from retrosigmoid affects the circulation, I just know that I had retrosigmoid and my scar wasn't a factor.  The thinned skin on my skull did cause one of the screws that is holding my bones back together (placed during my retro surgery) to almost "pop" through my skin, but that didn't happen.  My doc said if the screw did pop through, he'd just unscrew it - no damage done.

Jan

Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 07:56:51 pm »
Jan

He definitely has two BAHAs.  He has had over 20 hearing aids and loves his BAHAs so much he has contacted the company to see if he can be a spokesperson for the device.  He's pretty sure they will use him because he does have two which is extremely rare.

Mo
1 cm left side AN
Surgery scheduled at Duke University Hospital October 7th
Translab - Drs. Sampson, Tucci, and Fukushima

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2008, 08:21:16 pm »
Very cool, Mo  8)

It would be wonderful if he could be a spokesman.  IMO everyone should know what a great option the BAHA is.

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

I don't actually "make" trouble..just kind of attract it, fine tune it, and apply it in new and exciting ways

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 08:39:51 am »
There was a newspaper article in the Des Moines Register a couple years ago about a lady from southern Iowa who also had 2 BAHAs.                 I can't rememember now what her hearing problems was from but she had been that way a long time and getting the BAHAS was like a miracle to her.                I don't think it even said where she got them from but I would assume Iowa City as do know it was in Iowa.                 I think she was around 30.                I may have saved it and will have to look as would like to read it again.       
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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 08:54:34 am »
I have to agree with Jan, a graphic photo may detour people and your situation sounds rare. We are all far too aware of risks associated with surgery..... living it. Anyway I think it may scare people from wanting it (me included). I am glad that I know of you situation so I can address it with my physican if I choose the baha. As I recover I find it difficult in certain situations now that I am SSD. So many descions to make...
Michelle  ;D
Retrosigmond surgery on June 4th, 2008 for an AN. 100% hearing loss and facial paralysis (was not prepared for facial paralysis). Size: 2.3 cm, 2.1 cm, 1.8 cm. some tumour remains along facial nerve. Pray for no regrowth. Misdiagnosed for 10 yrs.

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 10:23:25 am »
I can see your point-- it is extremely rare.  However, I really wish someone had scared me off from having the BAHA surgery!  I now face having another long head surgery to remove the dead bone and slide skin around to cover this area.  If I had had any idea that would happen, I would have not had the BAHA surgery.  I think it is only a potential problem if someone has had previous retrosigmoid surgery-- my surgeon said that in cases of translab surgery, there wasn't an issue.  (She did not expect there to be an issue in this case either, but the unexpected happened!)  If anyone wants to see the whole story, please send me your e-mail.
For now, I wll hold out for the TransEar to come to CAnada, or go to the states to get one.
Elda

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 11:35:04 am »
Elda-
I really appreciate your story. This is exactly the reason I've held off having BAHA surgery. I'd had surgery 4 years ago and ran into complications. I had a cranial osteomyelitis which is a serious bone infection of the bone flap. It was difficult to treat because of a rare bacteria. I ended up with a cranial epidural abscess. My surgeon always felt I could have a BAHA. But like I said I've worried about another serious infection becasue of previous history. There is not a lot of information about cases like yours and mine to reinforce my concerns.  I know you didn't have a bone infection or anything like that and that your case is different from mine. Still now I have chronic pain in the area of surgery. Soon I'll be having an updated MRI. I'm concerned the scarring is now stuck to the dura and the pain problem will just be made worse from a BAHA plus the high potencial for an infection from compromised anatomy etc.   

Tahnks for reminding me of my gut instincts.

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Re: Unsuccessful BAHA surgery
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2008, 02:36:01 pm »
Oh Elda I hope you are feeling better soon - that is so terrible all that you have been through. Sending healing vibes your way. I am waiting to hear about the Transear, I will cross the border to get it but not sure if anyone will help me to maintain it here. I will post anything I find out. Good luck Elda.
Michelle  ;D
Retrosigmond surgery on June 4th, 2008 for an AN. 100% hearing loss and facial paralysis (was not prepared for facial paralysis). Size: 2.3 cm, 2.1 cm, 1.8 cm. some tumour remains along facial nerve. Pray for no regrowth. Misdiagnosed for 10 yrs.