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sroch1

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looking for advice
« on: March 11, 2013, 07:07:45 am »
Hi guys  :)
I am 3 months post surgery. I have facial paralysis on my right side and it is driving me crazy.
So I have a few questions:
1. Is there anything that anyone has done that they think has helped facial recovery?
2. What vitamins is it okay/ good for me to take?
3. Are there any signs to look for that my face is improving?

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 10:00:17 am »
Check out the facial paralysis institute website:

http://www.facialparalysisinstitute.com/

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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 05:34:32 am »
I know it is hard to accept, but time is your best friend here. The doctor I visited for my facial paralysis recommended doing nothing for a full year. That allows time for the nerve to heal with minimal synkenesis.

The indicator that I had for recovery was a strange "can of worms" feeling under my skin just before movement reappeared. First by my nose at around 3 months post-op, followed by the corner of my mouth at 6 month.

Where do you live? Have you seen anyone about your paralysis?

Best wishes,
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sroch1

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Re: looking for advice
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 07:59:32 am »
Hi Sara  :),

I live in upstate NY and yea, Ive seen my neurosurgeons but they told me to wait for now.

I do get tingling sensations at night usually that make me feel like there is hair brushing against my face but I was unsure if this was a good sign? Is this what you are talking about and if so how long after that did you see movement?

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 10:23:14 am »
The sensations I had were more like something trapped under the skin than something brushing on top. As I recollect it started a few days to a week before I saw movement, and continued afterward. I also felt the sensations more at night; my theory is that there are fewer competing stimuli.

I hope you have had a chance to look back through some of the older posts here. In particular look for one written by Jeanlea called Facial Progress. She had great results after a seemingly slow start - very inspiring.

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 09:32:51 am »
Try the Nature Made Stress B Complex.  I had trans-lab Oct 1th and my face is pretty much back but the left side feels funny when I smile.  Everyone says I look like me but I am still recovering inside.  I was told it would get better and it did.  Hang in there!  Mil  (Even my eye is better, but I must say, I liked it when it was bigger and rounder!)

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 10:54:06 am »
For my hemi-facial spasms my PCP recommended I take Alpha Lipoic Acid, it's an OTC vitamin.  I've been taking 400mg but plan to double that.  He said it should "feed" the nerve endings.

Good luck.

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 03:37:35 pm »
Hi S: sorry to hear this, hang in there. Do you have an eye weight in your upper lid yet, or at least a weight that can be taped to the outside of your lid? Protecting your cornea is extremely important.
I don't know how severe your paralysis is, but I think it's a good sign if the docs want you to wait. Have they discussed any nerve grafting?
Always good thoughts, Nancy
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 08:52:55 am »
Hi,
If your facial nerve was damaged, but is still intact, patience is the most important part of the healing process.  My husband had severe facial paralysis after his retrosigmoid surgery. grade IV on the House Brackmann scale.  There was no noticeable improvement for about 9 months and then just a hint of movement.  His surgeon suggested that he look into facial reanimation surgery, but Ken didn't want more surgery.  Through these boards, we learned about Jackie Diels, a facial retraining therapist and got in touch with her via phone and email.  She was able to see the first signs of nerve regeneration.  She generally doesn't work with people until a year out to see how the healing process is going.  If you do a search on these boards, you will find many references to people who have worked with Jackie.   

This article by Jackie  posted on the Acoustic Neuroma Association of Canada website gives a good overview of neuromuscular facial retraining.




Neuromuscular Retraining For Facial Paralysis

Jacqueline Diels, OTR
Facial Retraining Specialist
Neuromuscular Retraining Clinic
University of Wisconsin Research Park
621 Science Drive
Madison, WI, 53711

"The face is the image of the soul..." Cicero, 43 B.C.

Our face is the first thing people see and the way we present ourselves to the world. As human beings, our primary form of non-verbal communication relies upon the minute changes in facial expression that reveal our innermost feelings. Facial paralysis is still considered by some to be a cosmetic deformity. It is also a disability of communication with associated functional problems. In 1991, a survey conducted by the Acoustic Neuroma Association revealed facial paralysis to be the most significant problem experienced after acoustic neuroma resection.1 Although facial paralysis can create an obvious deformity, little effort is expended on therapy for the facial muscles after paralysis. Restoring function and expression to the highest level possible results in improved health, self-esteem, acceptance by others, and quality of life.

Neuromuscular retraining is gaining recognition as an effective element for achieving optimal recovery from facial paralysis.2 It is a problem solving approach used by physical, occupational and speech therapists who have been specifically trained to use facial muscle reeducation techniques to produce symmetrical movement and control undesired movement patterns.

Facial paralysis can result from any injury to the facial nerve. This "injury" can occur from tumors, Bell's palsy, traumatic injury or congenital problems. Acoustic neuroma (vestibular schwannoma), a nonmalignant tumor which grows on the eighth cranial (vestibulocochlear) nerve, is one of the most common causes of facial paralysis. The facial or seventh cranial nerve is located directly next to the eighth nerve as it exits the brain stem. As the neuroma grows, it can stretch, press or wrap around the facial nerve, causing damage.

One of the most difficult challenges facing the surgeon is to remove the tumor completely without further damaging the facial nerve. Although new techniques, such as electrical monitoring of the facial nerve during surgery, are improving outcomes, facial nerve damage is unavoidable in some cases.

For the person who has facial paralysis after surgery there are typically two stages of recovery. In the first stage, there may be no facial movement at all. In this phase nerve healing or regeneration, is slowly taking place. The face may droop. The eye may be unable to close or blink and tearing may be decreased. There is risk of corneal exposure and damage. Extra measures must be taken to protect the eye and may include lubrication, patching or other more involved procedures. Patients are followed closely by an ophthalmologist during this period to ensure a healthy eye. Weakness of the mouth muscles may cause difficulty with eating, drinking and speaking. The face may pull uncontrollably toward the unaffected side.

Intensive therapy is not attempted during this early stage since the nerve has to heal (like a broken bone in a cast has to heal) before therapy can be effective. This is a frustrating time for both patients and therapists who "want to do anything they can to get the face moving again". Lists of exercises in which the patient performs movements "as hard as you can" do not produce the desired facial symmetry and control required for normalized facial function. In this phase exercises performed with maximum effort will have little effect and will almost certainly be harmful later as they can reinforce abnormal movement patterns.

Electrical stimulation continues to be used in the early treatment of facial paralysis despite mounting evidence that it may be harmful to the nerve's ability to regenerate. Electrical stimulation may also cause a mass contraction of the facial muscles producing an undesirable, uncoordinated muscle response. Electrical stimulation is not used in facial neuromuscular retraining.

As nerve recovery takes place you may notice small facial movements beginning. People recover at different rates, but generally this occurs somewhere between six and twelve months after surgery (unless there has been a nerve graft, in which case the recovery period will be longer). This is the time to begin therapy with a therapist who has been specifically trained in facial retraining techniques.

As recovery continues you may notice movements beginning in areas of the face that you are not even trying to move. For example, when you smile the eye may twitch or close, or when you shut your eye the corner of your mouth may pull up or to the side. This condition, known as synkinesis, results in uncoordinated or unsynchronized facial movements. Synkinesis varies in severity from mild to severe. In its worst form, mass action, it can result in uncontrollable movement of the facial muscles on the affected side during any attempted expression. The affected side of the face may feel tight and be painful as the result of the uncontrolled muscle contractions. This characterizes the second stage of recovery.

As you might expect, the treatment of these two types of facial paralysis will be different. And, because no two people have the same functional profile, no two treatment programs will be the same. Instructions like "smile as hard as you can" or "pucker as hard as you can" do not take into account what happens to the other facial muscles during those movements. Does the eye twitch or close? Does the corner of the mouth pull down as though you are frowning? In practicing exercises "as hard as you can", the patient continuously reinforces improper movement patterns thereby promoting the synkinesis. It is important to remember that normal facial movements are subtle, never harsh or performed with maximum effort. A facial therapist can help you develop treatment strategies or "exercises" to improve coordination by decreasing the abnormal movements.

Treatment begins with a thorough evaluation which usually includes videotape and photographic assessments. Education is the most basic aspect of the therapy process and lays the foundation necessary for learning the movement patterns that will improve function. The facial therapist provides training in the basic facial anatomy and physiology pertinent to each specific situation. Because each person has different functional abilities, there are no generic lists of exercises. Treatment is based on individual function, and as a result, each treatment program is different.

Treatment sessions may range from two hours per month (for local patients) to an intensive treatment session of 9-12 hours spaced over 3-4 days, every six months (for patients traveling a great distance). This differs significantly from a typical therapy schedule in which patients are treated on a weekly basis. A limited schedule can be maintained in a neuromuscular retraining program because the therapist provides educational rather than "hands on" treatment and the patient directly controls the practice of his or her own therapy program at home.

The home exercises will be different than any exercises you have done before. They will focus on promoting symmetrical, isolated and synchronized movements rather than on strengthening muscles. Movements will be slow, small and equal on both sides in order to achieve symmetrical expression. Complete concentration in a non-distracting environment is essential because the greatest effort expended will be mental rather than physical.

During practice a mirror is used to provide feedback that the movements are being produced correctly. The patient must also focus on how the movement feels as it is being produced. Surface electrode EMG biofeedback may also be used to provide feedback.

A patient is typically involved in a neuromuscular retraining program for one to three years. During this time approximately 90 percent of the treatment is performed by the patient at home. Structuring therapy in this manner results in a cost-effective treatment program that reduces the number of billed clinic hours while increasing the overall number of practice hours. It requires a highly motivated person to follow through with 30 to 60 minutes of consistent, concentrated practice per day. Patients return to the clinic periodically to refine movement patterns, learn new exercises, document progress and establish new treatment goals.

Because many factors contribute to successful neuromuscular retraining, it is impossible to predict outcomes without evaluating each patient individually. With good compliance to the home program most people who are appropriate candidates demonstrate significant improvement in facial function.

Neuromuscular retraining provides an important element in the continuity of care for the post-surgical patient. Working as a team with the patient and other health care professionals, facial therapists strive to provide the best possible outcome after facial paralysis. Neuromuscular retraining cannot restore perfect function. However, these action-oriented techniques enable patients to "become their own best therapist", and assume control of their recovery resulting in improved physical function, self-esteem, satisfaction and hope.

References

1. Schaitkin B: Facial weaknesses #1 problem for most acoustic neuroma patients. Acoustic Neuroma Association NOTES 1991; 38:1-5.
2. Ross B, Nedzelski JM, McLean JA: Efficacy of feedback training in long-standing facial nerve paresis. Laryngoscope 1991; 101(7):744-750.
3. Diels HJ: New concepts in non-surgical facial nerve rehabilitation. Advances in Otolaryngology Head and Neck Surgery 1995; 9:289-315.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 01:48:18 am »
I would certainly wait for at least a year before looking into "repairative surgery" (such that you may read about), what about physiotherapy? I did go to a physiotherapist that deal with "facial issue's" and did find this of some help.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 01:11:25 pm »
Thank you for all the advice and responses!   :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 04:33:41 pm »
Karen-

Are you still having hemifacial spasms; I am 2.5 mos post GK and had my first ones this week. Doc prescribed Methylprednisolone and had just 1 very mild one since starting med on Tuesday.

What else did you try and how frequent/severe were your spasms?
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2013, 11:20:49 am »
Alpha lipoic acid is something that nerves use to grow....I have taken it as well and think it helps.  I know about that feeling of a hair on your face!  I had that too - sometimes even still have it.  Just remember that nerves are tricky things and take LONG time to heal!  The paralysis and control of the muscles is different than the feeling you're having of the skin itself.....so know that you're talking 2 different systems.  Jackie does Skype visits in her private practice which may help you as well - since she's in Wisconsin it's a hike for you to get to her!  I would encourage you to have patience - it really takes a long time.  My nerve was damaged by the tumor as well as I'm sure by the surgery itself....a double whammy.  I'm fortunate that I only had mild paralysis after surgery and by about your stage was seeing movement.....but everyone is different.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2013, 11:48:24 am »
Hi,
The ANA Patient Information Booklet, Facial Nerve and Acoustic Neuroma: Possible Damage and Rehabilitation, is an excellent resource for people dealing with facial paralysis issues.  The Patient Information Booklets,  are available to ANA members without charge, and to non-members for a nominal fee.  Members can access the Booklets online through the ANA Member Section of the website.
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