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alwaysthere

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What does sticky mean?
« on: April 11, 2009, 04:15:01 am »
I've read several posts where poeple have mentioned that their tumors where sticky?
What does that mean?     

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Diagnosed 1/09 1.6cm left side
5/09 2cm
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jazzfunkanne

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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 05:51:41 am »
hi patty am not sure, but i remember my consultant said my AN was surrounded by fluid and it could become sticky to try and remove it, did anyone else have a AN coved in fluid??
over 4.5cm AN removed dec 06

Cheryl R

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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2009, 07:26:36 am »
The sticky tumors stick to the nerve and are harder to get off.        Most slip off the nerve so are take less time to remove.     I have read once what makes them sticky but can't remember at the moment.     Someone else may know.     My first one was sticky so my surgery was 8 hrs.            My one a year ago was not and was closer to a 6 hr surgery.
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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2009, 11:41:59 am »
I believe that a tumor with a cystic center tends to be "sticky".  According to my surgical report, mine was "very sticky" (apparently a highly technical medical term  :D).  It really means that it is a bit harder to get out, not much else.  I don't think it is really an issue in the hands of experienced surgeons.

Debbi
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Translab April 30, 2008 at NYU with Drs. Golfinos and Roland
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leapyrtwins

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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2009, 02:12:13 pm »
It really means that it is a bit harder to get out, not much else.  I don't think it is really an issue in the hands of experienced surgeons.

ANs are surgically removed layer by layer - kind of peeled off the facial and hearing nerves - and Debbi is correct, sticky ones are harder to remove.  Removal of sticky tumors can also take longer than removal of tumors that aren't sticky.

Sometimes a surgeon - even the most experienced one - will decide to leave a piece of a sticky AN behind rather than risk permanent damage to the facial nerve.  The remaining part can then be treated with radiation in order to "kill" it if the surgeon feels it's necessary.

Jan
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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2009, 02:56:04 pm »
They told my family 13 years ago that mine was "very sticky" - guess that has always been the high-faluting medical term!! ;)

K
Translab 12/95@Houston Methodist(Baylor College of Medicine)for "HUGE" tumor-no size specified
25 yrs then-14 hour surgery-stroke
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LADavid

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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2009, 08:57:45 pm »
My AN, Cartman, was described as sticky.  A year and a half later, I'm still dealing with the sticky situation.  Sticky isn't a good thing.  Patty, if you're pre-op and someone has suggested a sticky AN, you may want to suggest to your surgical team that if you're dealing with a sticky, you may want to get most of the AN and zap the rest with radiology later.
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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2009, 09:27:13 pm »
I have read once what makes them sticky but can't remember at the moment.

I think it was fat. I seem to remember reading here that a fatty tumor is stickier, though I don't know which post. Also that lipomas, a rarer tumor that is mostly fat, are extra sticky.

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Tamara

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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 06:37:47 am »
Steve is right.  I had what turned out to be a lipoma (fat cell tumor) which was very sticky.  Usually the tumors peel off, but mine had to be cut off with a scissors.  There may be other reasons that a tumor is sticky, but I know for sure that this is one of them.  And yes, you would rather not have a sticky one.

I didn't know it was sticky before surgery.  I did, however, tell the surgeon that if he got in there and found, say, the tumor wound around the facial nerve and even thought there might be an issue there, that I'd prefer he just close it up, and I'd get radiation instead.

He did seem to get all the tumor, though, and I had some facial issues, but they have resolved significantly and continue to do so.

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postop issues including CSF leak, eye issues, and facial palsy.  All issues resolved at 9 mos. except slight facial palsy & weakness.  Continuing to improve...

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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 08:19:44 am »
Mine was very sticky as well, but he got it all - temp facial weakness, but 95% back to normal...or at least, how it was pre-op!

Cindy
rt side 1.5 cm - Translab on 11/07/08 Dr. Friedman & Dr. Schwartz of House Ear Institute,
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Re: What does sticky mean?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 08:54:12 am »
Cartman  ???

That was the name of your AN, David?  Can you explain that please?

I didn't name my AN - didn't want to become that  attached  ;) - but I love hearing what others name theirs.

Sorry for the hijack; my curiosity got the best of me  ;D

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

I don't actually "make" trouble..just kind of attract it, fine tune it, and apply it in new and exciting ways