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DLM4me

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Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« on: March 23, 2009, 07:06:04 pm »
Okay, I'm being SOMEWHAT facetious here, but considering that my tinnitus is outrageously loud and annoying, and that I keep SAYING I'm going to lose my mind if it doesn't stop, I got to wondering: Does anyone really lose their mind due to tinnitus?  :o

Speaking of tinnitus, I'm still grappling with the idea that it can not only remain after surgery but actually get worse.  Huh?!  How is that even possible?  I never had tinnitus before in my life until this stupid AN decided to grow on my right side.  I'm convinced that once the AN and its associated swelling/pressing/blocking are gone, the tinnitus will go away too.  Am I being ridiculous?  ???


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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 08:38:29 pm »
This thread title cracked me up!

I think you'll stop noticing it so much. Mine seems worse after I'm at an event, like a big party or noisy restaurant with a "din." Then when I get home, it's like my ear is reprocessing all that sound and it's louder and more noticeable. Other times it's there but less so and I think you learn to tune it out. (?)

Mine was so bad last summer, and sometimes it would be a distinct beep -- I kept checking my cell phone thinking it was a message alert or something.  :o That never happens anymore.


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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 06:00:17 am »
No...sadly, it does not go away, but as lilan said, you do get used to it for the most part.  Some times and some things can certainly cause it to ramp up at times - loud restaurants, parties, tv volume, etc.

Of all the AN issues (pre and post op), this is the one I least like - bothers me more than SSD - however, I don't think I'll lose my mind...but, then again... ::)

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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 07:18:03 am »
My "base" tinnitus didn't change after surgery.  I have the same highish pitched tone, on the rather loud side, constantly in my AN ear after surgery.  I'm either completely SSD or, more likely, can hear very slightly some low tones.  Since surgery, I have new tinnitus issues.  Just as Cindy and Lilan noted, I get increased volume and tones in noisy environments.  Even the phone will invoke new noises for me.  There is a careful balance of TV volume I have to keep in order to still be able to hear it, but not cause interference in my other ear.  Am I happy about that?  Nope.  But I know it's mine to keep, in sickness and in health, til death do us part.  You may now kiss your brain.  <music plays, rice is thrown...>
 
Seriously though, for most it is not something that will control your life, just make a few adjustments.  I'm only a few weeks post op, but I think, like others have said in other threads, you eventually just get used to it and almost forget about it at times (I'm still waiting for that to happen).
 
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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 08:13:08 am »
It should slowly get better, and you'll learn to cope with it.  Although it may never go away, you should get to a point that you barely notice it.  It just takes time.  That's been my experience, anyway.

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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 08:38:27 am »
Mines been with me for 10 years and its only after reading your message I suddenly remember its still there.  ;)

Reminds me of foot steps of neighbours above, you can let it really wind you up and you will be listening out for them, or let it go and you will soon get used to it and forget about them.

Rick 
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Translab on  29 Jan 09 Dr. Friedman & Dr. Schwartz of HEI
Surgery a success!! had wonky head for a while and odd tastes
Everyday things are improving and getting back to normal.

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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 09:14:33 am »
I`ve had mine for thirty years. I`ve tried everthing there is to get rid of it. It`s been 2 years since I was diognosed with AN. Maybe this was what caused it all these years? I`m presently W+W and everthing has been "stable". The latest thing I did was Neuromonics. This has probably worked for me most effectively taking the tone down 50% (a great help). In any case tinnitus does become something that you do get used to ( a part of you). Good Luck, Mickey

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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 09:32:50 am »
My tinnitus got worse after the surgery, but they said my AN had been in there way too long (5-10 years too long).It is on the deaf ear of course.
So depending on how long the tumor is smashing the hearing nerve probably will affect post op tinnitus.
And yes, unfortunately I sometimes feel I AM losing my mind. Hate to say it but it's true. I feel your pain >:(
What to do? Keep on truckin. I try to stay busy. Can't sit in silence anymore.....
I'm on XANAX low dose, which seems to tone it a bit.
I also can't wait for spring to go outdoors more. I'm in the rainy northwest, so that doesn't help. LOVE the outdoors. It blends with the outdoor sounds. Beach waves are good too.
You live near a beach?
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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 09:36:52 am »
DLM4me,

What you have post surgery is also what I have since surgery.

It is called “hyperacusis�

Here are a couple of links about this condition to help you understand the problem more
http://www.dizziness-and-balance.com/disorders/hearing/hyperacusis.htm

http://www.hyperacusis.net/hyperacusis/what+is+hyperacusis/default.asp

I will not delude you and tell you that it goes away but I will tell you that your brain is very plastic and will eventually adjust. You will also, over time, learn coping skills to deal with it.

Know that since surgery I am single sided deaf (SSD). (My hearing was excellent  before surgery on the AN side thus my brain woke up, after surgery, very confused when processing hearing... thus the hyperacusis ). My acoustic nerve was severed and the facial nerve was damaged in the tumor removal process.

I often wear an earplug:
•   In industrial buildings with fan systems
*      When my teenager is listening to music (although most parents want to do this anyway)
•   In my family van (which has the worst aerodynamics and is so noisy)
•   When my husband unloads the dishwasher
•   In a crowds at my youngest child's soccer games
•   The list goes on…


Unfortunately the best earplug I have found, that filters the frequencies that most exacerbate my tinnitus but still allow me to hear, are florescent orange:-\  :P  The flesh tone colored ones, I bought at the hyperacusis network, plug too much sound making my good ear deaf … Nevertheless I wear these if I wanting to be less noticed by the florescent orange ear plug that screams out to onlookers,
“Look at me, look at me… weird lady wearing only one earplug… Look at me!â€? (  ;D But hey for cold days Steve knit me a hat that covers this up nicely  :-* )

To answer your original question- I have NOT lost my marbles, just yet  :-\ ;) :D ;D, from this annoying condition. Probably the hardest for me are the frequencies that make this the worst being the lower bass tones- such as my husband voice. He comes home and the first thing I do is put in an earplug  :-\ … Any onlooker, not experiences with AN tumors, would think we have a bizarre relationship and marriage…  ;)

The reality is:
•   My husband is a man with a manly voice and I cannot expect him to talk like a girl.  :D
•   My teenager is normal and is going to play music that aggravate a parent as most teenagers do … (that and taking a sharpie to their converse sneakers and refusing to wear clothes that her mother thinks looks nice (Mantra: I will get through these teenage years… I will get through these teenage years…)  ::)
•   There will always be crumpling of grocery bags to drive me crazy…  >:(
•   Restaurants are usually noisy as these are places intend for people to socialize in  :-[
•   All industrial buildings have fans for ventilation  ???

The key thing is I cannot change the world I live in – just learn to cope and make adjustments so I can adapt to it … and help and coach others to do the same. :)

Try some earplugs but be careful not to become too dependant on these or your brain will not readjust or learn to cope. Read up on this topic- knowledge is empowering.  8)

You WILL get through this without losing your mind!

Keep moving forward.

DHM :)




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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 09:39:14 am »
Yikes,
Great info DHM!
I about lost my mind reading how you have to deal with tinnitus :o
EMPATHIZING WITH YOU,
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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 09:52:46 am »
DLM4me:

I know tinnitus can be maddening because, like many others, I've lived with it - for years.  My AN surgery and subsequent radiation did not change it at all.  I simply ignore it, for the most part.  It's there, but it's hardly life-altering for me and I refuse to focus on this relatively minor distraction.  I realize that isn't so easy for some with really bad (loud) tinnitus that is affected by noise, etc, and I sympathize with those folks.  While there is no specific 'cure' for tinnitus, there are treatments that can sometimes help.  There is a tinnitus association (complete with a newsletter) that offers lots of information about the problem and works to capture funding to help find a reliable 'cure', which we would all welcome.  You can access their website here: http://www.ata.org/.  I trust this may be of some help to you. 

Jim
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Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is.  The way we cope with it is what makes the difference.

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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 12:11:51 pm »
Thanks for the great replies!  DHM, I appreciate all the info.

And, yes, I did think that the subject might cause a few chuckles. :)

Seriously, my tinnitus is more annoying than the other two major symptoms I have right now (still pre-op), the extreme dizziness and the hearing loss. And that's saying a lot!  The dizziness has relegated me to spending most of my time lying down on the sofa in the living room, as even sitting up makes it worse.  And the hearing loss...it sucks.  But the tinnitus?  ANNOYING!!  :o >:(  It's just so pervasive.  Right now there's NOTHING that makes it ease up--not background noise, talking on the phone, watching TV, music...just nothing.  And when I'm trying to go to sleep it's outrageously annoying. (I already go to sleep with the TV on (a personal quirk, what can I say?), so I already have background noise in the room that should do some masking...but it doesn't.)

So it's unlikely I'll lose my mind, eh?  Okay, I'm going to TRY to believe that!!  Stay tuned...once post-op I guess we shall see.  ;D


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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2009, 12:14:56 pm »
After my first AN, the tinnitis was really bothering me and my mother-in-law got me a sound machine. It really helped. Also avoiding loud places helps me a lot because for instance, after going to a concert where the noise levels are really up there, when I leave, my ringing stays at that loud level for a while afterwards. That's when I really can't stand it so I avoid those situations as much as I can.
Good luck, Dianne
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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2009, 03:45:57 pm »

Here's a link to a recent story in the New Yorker magazine about tinnitus that suggests that biofeedback training might be helpful. The good part is at the very end of the article.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/02/09/090209fa_fact_groopman?currentPage=all

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Re: Does anyone actually lose their mind because of tinnitus?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2009, 05:04:04 pm »
I think I must have!  :o
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