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Clifton

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new to the board, any advice helps.
« on: August 07, 2007, 05:15:12 pm »
Hey,

My name is Clifton. I have just been informed this morning that i have an AN.

I woke up about 9 days ago with the sensation in my right ear like i was under water. I couldn't hear at all like i normally could. Frequencies were different from normal and i couldn't really understand talking.
After 2 days i went to a med clinic where they thought i might have some sinus congestion and she said that if it persisted to see an ENT.
So after another 2 days i was worried and set up my appt. He did some tests and said i've definitly lost alot of hearing and prescribed me some different meds *ie. steroids and famvir* thinking it may be a virus but also made sure to set up an appt for an MRI.
Well today was the day of the MRI and he broke the news to me...
I apologize if I am about to ask some stupid questions but im just in a little bit of shock at the moment.

The doctor told me that i have 3 options.
1.Observe
2.Surgery
3.Radiation.

He said that because of my age i shouldn't just sit back and watch it because it could continue growing, and he seemed to steer me into the "surgery" option more so than the radiation, again, because of my age probably.
The thing that bothered me the most was that he said i could potentially lose control over my facial expressions with the surgery option. Has this happened to anyone on here?
Im leaning more towards the surgery option, but the loss of my facial muscles scares me of course.

I am elated that i was able to locate this board so maybe some of you can help me shed some light on the situation. Im trying to be as optimistic as i can be, but its a little rough.
There are alot of questions that i want to ask but in order to not confuse myself i guess i'll just take them slowly.

Thank you so much for having me.'
God bless.

Clifton
San Antonio, Tx
2cm AN right side.
Trans-Lab DONE as of sept 14th 2007!
some facial weakness initially, right ear completely deaf.

Dr. Perry      Neuro-otologist
Dr. Bogaev   Neurologist
San Antonio, Texas
25 years of age - 4 years post op

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 05:38:51 pm »
Hi, Clifton:

I'm sorry you've been diagnosed with an acoustic neuroma tumor but I'm glad that you found this site and forum.  We're not doctors and can't offer medical advice but we can and do try to offer practical advice, based on sometimes hard-won experience. 

You’ll need to find out exactly what the MRI report said and what was the measurement of your AN.   If the tumor is tiny, ’watch-and-wait’ may be the most practical course to take – for now.  These tumors can stay dormant for years or grow very, very slowly.  They can also experience growth ‘spurts’.   My neurosurgeon speculated that my large AN might have been there for 10 to 15 years before growing large enough to cause symptoms.  This is not uncommon.

If the AN is small enough, non-invasive radiation treatment may be your best option.  It isn't guaranteed not to have complications, but it's easier than surgery.

The surgery your doctor mentioned is another, common, approach to removing AN tumors.  I had it, as have many others posting on this board.  Surgery certainly does have implications for facial paralysis and other assorted problems, but so does radiation.  Unfortunately, because the AN tumor usually originates on the 8th cranial (auditory) nerve, it can affect various otherr crucial nerves that control swallowing, blinking, facial expression, etc.  This doesn't always occur and I didn't suffer these problems, even with a relatively large (4.5 cm) tumor that was surgically 'cut down' and then, radiated over a 5 week period.  I'm fine, now, 14 months post-surgery.  Of course, we're all individuals and no responsible physician can or will guarantee the outcome of any procedure. 

Basically, having an acoustic neuroma tumor is a bit of a minefield.  You do have options, of course, but there are always going to be residual problems and emotional issues to deal with, sooner or later.  The good news is that it's a benign tumor (not cancerous) and is treatable.  You'll get through this.

Please browse the website ands take advantage of the excellent information available here, along with the collective wisdom of the forums.  You are not alone in this journey and we want to help you in any way we can so please, Clifton, stay connected and let us know how you're doing and what you're doing.  We want to know because we care.

Jim


« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 06:02:13 pm by Jim Scott »
4.5 cm AN diagnosed 5/06.  Retrosigmoid surgery 6/06.  Follow-up FSR completed 10/06.  Tumor shrinkage & necrosis noted on last MRI.  Life is good. 

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is.  The way we cope with it is what makes the difference.

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 05:51:03 pm »
Hi Clifton:  Glad to meet you.   I don't know how large your tumor is, but PLEASE, take a deep breath - you have some time no matter what.   Look into the different sites here - many questions you probably have are answered here - and any you want to know we're all happy to help you with.   I didn't know about this site until after my surgery - I am so glad you found us.
To answer 1 of your questions - I lost my faical function - & it has not been an easy road (to put it mildly) - but this is about you.
Yes, you are in shock.  But you're right, take it slow - no need to make any 'quick' decisions.

Please let us know the size of your tumor.  The surgeon says your at an age for surgery,  so you're probably NOT in your 70's - 80's & in poor health.  And if he/she told you you can observe, surgery or radiation,  you DO HAVE TIME.
In the physician section you'll see people ask about docs all over the country; the radiation section deals with just that, etc., etc.
We're all here for you, believe that.  So, take your time, ask away.
All the best,  Nancy
ps:  oh, & don't let any dr. rush you into ANYTHING.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 05:52:46 pm by nancyann »
2.2cm length x 1.7cm width x 1.3cm  depth
retrosigmoid 6/19/06
Gold weight 7/19/06, removed 3/07
lateral tarsel strip X3
T3 procedure 11/20/07
1.6 Gm platinum weight 7/10/08
lateral canthal sling 11/14/08
Jones tube insert right inner eye 2/27/09
2.4 Gm. Platinum chain 2017
right facial paralysis

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 05:58:24 pm »
thank you so much for the patience.

Dr. Perry in San Antonio is who will be discussing the situation with me in more detail.

The ENT who showed me the MRI's said that my tumor is very very small...he said 2.5 mm in length or so, which is why he says that i haven't experienced any numbing of the face or dizzyness.

I am going this thursday to Dr. Perrys office to discuss different routes to take. The ENT said he does about 1 per month, similar cases to mine here in san antonio.

Anyone in the area have someone to recommend?
2cm AN right side.
Trans-Lab DONE as of sept 14th 2007!
some facial weakness initially, right ear completely deaf.

Dr. Perry      Neuro-otologist
Dr. Bogaev   Neurologist
San Antonio, Texas
25 years of age - 4 years post op

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 06:03:44 pm »
Clifton:  I'm not in the area, but be patient - the way it works is as people log on, they look thru the sites, & will find your subject.  And, the good news :  YOU'VE GOT A BABY AN ! Lucky you(believe it or not) - you CAN play the 'watch & wait' - In fact, look at the pre surg, or search the words watch & wait - you'll find quite a few folks doing just that!!
Again,  so glad you found this site pre-op.   Best wishes,  Nancy
2.2cm length x 1.7cm width x 1.3cm  depth
retrosigmoid 6/19/06
Gold weight 7/19/06, removed 3/07
lateral tarsel strip X3
T3 procedure 11/20/07
1.6 Gm platinum weight 7/10/08
lateral canthal sling 11/14/08
Jones tube insert right inner eye 2/27/09
2.4 Gm. Platinum chain 2017
right facial paralysis

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 06:21:27 pm »
Hi Clifton and welcome to the Forum.  

I had a beautiful, long post for you...but everyone beat me to it! :D


So I'll just say Welcome and best wishes to you in your treatment of your "baby AN" and be sure to look at all your options. 

Good luck and take care,

Sue in Vancouver USA
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2007, 06:44:46 pm »
I've been a member of quite a few message boards but none like this. I definitly appreciate the support.

I am visiting the Dr. Thursday to analyze the situation and decided what would be best for me.

Is it possible to regain control of your facial functions if you lose it post op?
2cm AN right side.
Trans-Lab DONE as of sept 14th 2007!
some facial weakness initially, right ear completely deaf.

Dr. Perry      Neuro-otologist
Dr. Bogaev   Neurologist
San Antonio, Texas
25 years of age - 4 years post op

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2007, 06:50:11 pm »
hey clifton,yours is in the millimeter stage,thats actually good.
this forum has some very wise people on it,very attached,you have found
a very good place.you will overcome this , it may seem hard to believe right now,but you will !
john from dallas..
kicked my little 8cm buddy to the curb-c ya !

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 07:38:41 pm »
I too have a very small AN...2-3mm and have been advised to Wait and Watch.  I am going for a second opinion next week at MD Anderson in Houston.  I would advise you to seek at least a 2nd opinion too.  I don't know of the treatment facilities in San Antonio, but I have been really impressed the people at MD Anderson so far.  I will let you know what i find out next week.  I fortunately have have had no change in my hearing (knock on wood), only some dizziness and headaches.  We are lucky that our's are so small in that we do have time to research and make the right decision for us.  The people in this forum have been so helpful to me and are such a caring group of people.  Good Luck to you and keep me posted.

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2007, 07:44:59 pm »
Hi Clifton and welcome:

I am sorry you need to be here but glad you found us.

This is only my opinion Clifton but, I think you should watch your AN for a while to see if it grows.  This would give you time to explore the options available and the possible complications for surgery and radiation.  By your next MRI, you will be very versed in everthing AN and you can make an informed choice if it is growing.

Good luck to you Clifton.  If you end up deciding on surgery,  you owe it to yourself to select a surgeon that does 100 or more AN surgeries a year. 

If you click on the ANA logo at the top, there is a link where you can request information on everything AN. 

See you around the forum!!  Kathy

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2007, 09:13:07 pm »
Hi Clifton;

   Guess I didn't catch your age in the thread but considering your AN is that size, if this were my decision to make, I'd watch the thing a bit and repeat MRI in 6 months and no more than a year.
   Oftentimes the real damage is accrued upon treatment.
   Re, facial paralysis or weakness, that's always a possibility with any treatment type but the facial nerve is the most resilient of the 3 nerves generally involved with IAC tumors. Generally its a weakened nerve which appertains to normal in IT's time. Weakness doesn't always occur however.

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2007, 09:42:28 pm »
Hi Clifton- welcome to Club AN! ::) I have a 2.5 CM tumor so I did have to "deal with it" but I was told I had some time, like 6 months to a year... My first ENT set me up with his business partner who would have done a translab procedure to debulk the tumor and then I would go for gamma knife radiation to kill the rest of the bugger.  The lastest procedures now debulk with surgery then radiate with gamma.  My second opinion was with House in LA who said just surgery. With translabrynthian surgery the balance nerve is cut  in order to preserver the facial nerve. So while people were going to save my facial expression, my hearing in the left ear was to be gone completely with no chance for a hearing device of any type. Third guy suggested a retro sigmoid surgery with 5-10% chance of hearing preservation.  Fourth guy- who I went with suggested CK (cyber knife) as I had no balance issues. My hearing is still preserved and CK was really easy...When my husband asked Fourth guy (Dr. Chang, Stanford) why so many different plans just to treat my ear, Chang explained that surgeons who trained in the 1980's were trained in surgical techniques while guys in the 1990s were trained in both surgerical and radiation.  And yeah- surgeons are the best salesmen out there! Each opinion I got was compelling- that's what both my husband and I found frustrating.  I always wanted the "least evasive" procedure so it took extra time, effort to get what I wanted.  My advise- do lots of research, and yes take your time. Please contact me via email or personal message if I can help you at all.  Take care of yourself!  Annie
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2007, 05:01:18 am »
Hi Clifton:  People can regain use of facial function if the facial nerve is stretched, not cut - but many times even with stretched it doesn't go back 100% - there are usually residual eye problems at the least.  Those of us who's facial nerve was cut, well, we either go for further nerve surgery, or like me, in a few months I'll have reconstructive surgery - my face will look more'normal' but I still won't have movement on my right side.
Take your time deciding....
2.2cm length x 1.7cm width x 1.3cm  depth
retrosigmoid 6/19/06
Gold weight 7/19/06, removed 3/07
lateral tarsel strip X3
T3 procedure 11/20/07
1.6 Gm platinum weight 7/10/08
lateral canthal sling 11/14/08
Jones tube insert right inner eye 2/27/09
2.4 Gm. Platinum chain 2017
right facial paralysis

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2007, 07:44:58 am »
Hello Clifton,

So sorry that you are joining us, but am glad you found this forum so early in your AN journey, as these are wonderful caring, and sharing people who have, been down the many roads this journey can take us. If I can impart any wisdom on your situation it is that "You do have time to do your research, before you have any procedure done"! Initially panic seems to be the first feeling we ALL share. You really must give yourself the necessary time to calm down and research your options and what is best for you! Your AN is very small, so you do have the luxury of taking the time for research. Don't allow anyone to push you into doing anything until you are comfortable with your choice, and that is only achieved by research and understanding what this journey is all about. Continue to post your progress, and good luck!!!
Jackie
9mm x 11mm Right Side AN mild Tinnitis, and 60% hearing loss
Diagnosed 02/04/2007
Nov.13th, diagnosed with 5mm Meningioma
9/24/08 diagnosed with Aneurysm
Wait and watch per ENT's advice and researching my options!!! What's next???

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2007, 08:05:54 am »

Is it possible to regain control of your facial functions if you lose it post op?

Definitely !  Most come 100% back 6 months or so ... but even after few years.. mine had zero movement after 1 year... and tomorrow is my 2nd year anniversary!! ... and I have lots of movement since then...
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