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Post-Treatment => Eye Issues => Topic started by: Karen on October 16, 2008, 06:45:10 pm

Title: eye make-up
Post by: Karen on October 16, 2008, 06:45:10 pm
Good news Kaybo about your eye    . One question, since you don't have feeling in your eye how do you know that one drop of         Systyne is enough?  I would like to go longer than two hours  but I am afraid to try.  I just check and see if it looks wet.  What kind of eye makeup are you going to use?  Did you just wear make-up on the good eye before?  How many other people just did the good eye?  Karen
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: saralynn143 on October 16, 2008, 06:58:30 pm
Karen, the one time I tried eye makeup, I ended up poking myself in the eye with the mascara wand. Needless to say I have not tried that again. And now that I have a weight I don't want to put eye shadow on that lid. So my eyes just go naked. I am at peace with that.

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: mimoore on October 16, 2008, 07:17:53 pm
Hi Karen,
I love makeup and always have. Not too much just enough to enhance my natural beauty.  :o :o Anyway I wear a foundation with spf and I wear makeup on my good eye - would not dare on my AN side. Maybe one day just not yet Sara how come you won't wear shadow with the implant?
Michelle  ;D
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Kaybo on October 16, 2008, 07:23:58 pm
As I have said before, I just kind of know when it is getting dry - the vision just gets even more blurry or something.  I probably should put drops in a little more frequently but i just don't stop long enough to do it and it seems to be OK.  I do just wear make-up on my good eye & have for years now.  I am not some make-up drag queen and don't feel like I HAVE to have it - most days I never get it on and don't even think twice about it.  When I do put it on, I am usually in some parking lot somewhere between errands!!  LOL!!  When I worked, I did wear it everyday - & church, meetings, etc. now - sure cuts down on costs!!   ;D  I have worn it on the AN side a couple of times for special occasions.  I had started wearing it some with my old weight when I had the T3.  Sara, why do you not wear it over the weight?  I use Bare Minerals on the other eye and since it suppose to be all good stuff, I'm going to give it a whirl.  It is a little tough because I don't use my right hand as much anymore and had to learn to put my make-up on with my left hand - it does feel awkward trying to put mascara on with the right hand!! Tomorrow is free babysitting at church for couples to have a Date Night so I will try then (if I have time!  LOL!!)  I'll let you know!  Wish me luck!!   ;D

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: saralynn143 on October 16, 2008, 08:44:37 pm
The skin on my eyelid is very thin, and my ophthalmologist told me it would put me at greater risk for extrusion, so I try to handle my eyelid as little as possible. It would freak me out for the thing to come popping through. I know I am probably way too squeamish about it, but in general my nature is to err on the side of caution.

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: lori67 on October 16, 2008, 09:38:45 pm
I'm able to wear make up on my AN eye.  I didn't for a while after the AN surgery, but that was probably more because I didn't feel like it than anything.  I don't wear a lot of it either and it seemed like a good enough excuse to go without!

I started using mascara again as a way to keep my upper lashes up and out of my eye.  The lack of muscle tone made the lashes kinda hang down instead of curling upward, so when I put mascara on, it seems to hold them up there better.  After that I moved on to the "big guns" - eyeliner and shadow.  I got a good liner that's not technically waterproof, but it's probably pretty close.  I haven't had any problems and my eye doctor didn't yell at me last time I was there about it.  I just apply it carefully and make sure I wash it off well at night.

My old motto used to be "just because you're in pain, doesn't mean you have to be one" - I've since changed it to "Just because I feel like crap, doesn't mean I have to look like it!".   ;D  And I speak for myself here - I am sure you are all stunningly beautiful naturally, but I benefit from a little help!  ::)

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: calimama on October 17, 2008, 01:45:44 pm
oh... good topic!
since i have started to take off my pirate patch (YAY! double vision is pretty much fixed! double YAY!) i feel kind of funny with my poor old naked open eye. I don't wear much make up, but for me eye liner and mascara (and lipstick) are tough to go without.

I have put a bit of liner under my lower lashes (AN side) but REALLY need mascara. I have short fine lashes (which seem to be getting lighter with age?!). I would love to wear mascara on the AN side but wonder...

- is waterproof better than wash off (my standard)
- would drops make mascara run (or ointment run waterproof stuff).
- is this risky to cornea
- are some brands of mascaras better/less risky than others

anyone tried eye lash curlers?? I did but had trouble getting the lashes in there and they are too short without cosmetic help.

The things we do...
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Kaybo on October 17, 2008, 02:31:12 pm
I know that the salve (Refresh PM) just takes it right off.  I use waterproof and if I go on a trip & forget my eye make-up remover, I use the Refresh PM to get it off!!  Drops don't seem to bother it, but I wasn't putting them in too often.  I plan on using waterproof.  I had (before T3) started curling lashes a little trying to "train" them back into shape - mine kind of fall down too.  Sephora has a curler that I read about in People magazine that is more like a little curling wand (uses heat, but not too hot) than the older "crinkle" type.  I would think that would be good at first.  My Dr. said it would be OK as long as you don't poke your eye!!   ;)  Wouldn't really want to do that anyway!!

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: calimama on October 19, 2008, 10:41:58 am
Thanks Kaybo.

Does it matter what kind/brand of mascara... like maybe better to use one that is for sensitive eyes (or maybe this is just marketing BS) or made from natural ingredients?? Just a thought...

I have never been a fan of waterproof mascara, too much work to get it off, but am feeling ready to convert! Thanks for your thoughts. I will probably ask my opthamologist too, just to be on the safe side.

I also feel like my eye lashes are kind lazy and maybe mascara would help keep them out of the way.

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: lori67 on October 19, 2008, 10:47:55 am
I use the waterproof kind.  The regular kind just winds up running if I put drops in and I look like a football player.  I read somewhere that if you have sensitive eyes you shouldn't use waterproof because it can flake, but I haven't had that problem.  It is tougher to get off, but I found a good remover (Clinique) that takes it off without burning your eyes and it also works great at getting rid the greasy feeling from the overnight gel.

I used an eye lash curler for a while, until it mysteriously disappeared, along with a few other make up items (the price you pay for having a 20 year old daughter, I suppose), and I didn't have too much trouble with it.  Now, a heated one - I think I would probably be needing your eye patch after I seriously injured myself!  :o

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Kaybo on October 19, 2008, 01:21:46 pm
I did wear eye make-up and here is the report:

1)  I forgot to mention (b/c I had forgotten) that I do not put mascara on the BOTTOM lashes of my AN eye, but I think that has more to do with having had a stroke and not really being able to use my right hand for fine motor skills - black all over face - NOT good when you are out of the neat little q-tips things that already have make-up remover in them for those little mistakes!!   :o

2)  Everything went GREAT except that last night before bed I realized that my eyelid was "swollen"  -  it actually looks like I have the weight in again.  It is where it was in its "slipped" position.  I put the antibiotic ointment back on it & I will call the Dr. tomorrow.  It is not HUGE & he had said I could wear make-up on that eye, but that is the only thing I can think.

3)  I use Covergirl (green tube) that has the curved wand (I almost put applicator, but that sounded like something else... ::)).  I use Bare Minerals and had used their waterproof mascara for a while but had always used this and it was MUCH cheaper so I went back - I really like it a LOT better - at least for the good eye!

4)  Lori, you big dork - it doesn't get that hot!

OK, that's all I can remember!

K   ;D
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: lori67 on October 20, 2008, 01:04:48 pm

I'm not a big dork - just a big klutz!!!!!   ;D  And a small dork, thank you very much! 

I don't do well with sharp or hot things.  They always result in some sort of painful mishap for me - and I've got the scars to prove it!   :D

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Debbi on October 21, 2008, 02:53:48 pm
Okay, you girls are braver than me.  I am terrified to put mascara near my AN eye!  I can't really close the eye, so I can't envision trying to remove the mascara without it getting in my eye.  Since mascara was the ONE makeup item I could never do without, this has been quite an adjustment for me.  However, having a paralyzed face did make me less self-conscious about not wearing mascara!   :D ;D 

Maybe I'll try to work up my courage to try mascara before the end of the year...

Debbi, living in terror of my mascara wand...
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: saralynn143 on October 21, 2008, 04:16:33 pm
Well, Debbi, I can tell you from personal experience that poking yourself in the eye with a mascara wand is one of the more exquisite tortures out there. However, it might just finally bring those long-awaited tears to your affected eye.

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Meagan on October 24, 2008, 03:37:57 pm
I will be two years in January and I just tried to use my mascara and got an eye make sure you get new eye doctor was ok with me using the makeup....just not the old stuff :)  I do not have the weight but have the fun stitch in my eye!  so advice, buy new stuff.....

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: jgr01 on October 24, 2008, 05:21:53 pm
Once I got back to actually wearing make up, I found using an eye lash curler helped. I have an isue with allogator tearing when I eat so usually by 9a.m. I only have mascara on one eye. Thank goodness for glasses, I haven't found I waterproof mascara I like yet.
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Jan D on October 24, 2008, 08:06:39 pm
I have had the same experience with getting eye infections everytime I tried to use eye makeup.  If anyone has found a good brand of mascara and liner that doesn't cause a problem, I would love to hear of it.

Jan D
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: calimama on November 17, 2008, 12:32:27 pm
So is the heated eye lash curler a go?? I tried the waterproof mascara on the AN eye and it didn't really help, i think because the lashes are sort of flat. That was few weeks ago, i gave up after the first try. I guess i am revisiting the whole idea...

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Kaybo on November 17, 2008, 06:11:08 pm
I liked the heated but now that I am putting mascare on my AN eye, I have gone back to the "old-fashioned" curler - I can't feel that eye so I curl it really good and I love it b/c those lashes are so much longer!!  I just put mascara on the TOP though!!

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Debbi on November 17, 2008, 06:32:51 pm
I still can't muster up the courage for mascara.  I also notice that the upper lashes on my AN eye slant straight down now, rather than culring up like the other eye.  I suspect that this is all related to the nerves, but it would probably look weirder if I put mascara on it - best not to draw attention!   ;)

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: nancyann on November 17, 2008, 06:43:44 pm
Debbie:   Sometimes I 'gently' use my eyelash curler to help with the AN eye.  Works like a charm.  I never liked using mascara even before this AN business.

Always good thoughts to all,  Nancy
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Brendalu on November 17, 2008, 09:52:38 pm
I don't know if anyone has brought this up but it is just a reminder.  As a cosmetologist for over 40 years and a former Lancome makeup artist, throw your mascara out after two months.  Don't pump the wand into the tube.  It creates all kinds of bacteria problems and NEVER, EVER share your mascara or other eye makeup no matter what the gal at the makeup counter says.  Look at a two month old mascara wand under a microscope!  Just say yuck!!
Look for a hypo-allergenic brand, it is the brush that does the job, so if you find a brush you like you can use it with any brand mascara.  Curlers are a great idea, but clean them after each use.  Alcohol works great.  Keep your makeup brushes clean too.  At least once a week, most can be cleaned with a gentle shampoo and rinse well with very warm water until the water runs clear.  Dry them laying down on a thickness of paper towels.
Okay, that's my lessons for today!  Gotta protect your eyes and your skin!!
Brenda ::)
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: calimama on November 18, 2008, 02:43:10 pm
Brenda! Great stuff thanks. I know not to share mascara (though sure did not heed this my teens!) but i never heard not to "pump" the wand in the tube... i ALWAYS do this...trying to get more goop on the wand and therefore my lashes. I had not thought about getting hypoalgergenic mascara or cleaning the lash curler (NEVER have).

Debbi, i have the same trouble with my lashes (flat and limp) on the top left eye. And know that others on this post have suggested the same. I am not sure if due to the nerve issues, or just that they have not been pushed up (manually with mascara etc) for so many months.

I think i will go home and sanitize my manual curler and try it again... i kind of had trouble manoeuvering the lashes into the wand, but maybe i need to be more persistent.

Thanks for all the great tips ladies!

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: saralynn143 on November 18, 2008, 06:54:44 pm
Trish, I'm sure the eyelash thing is due to the paralysis. I have no such problem with my right eye and I'm not wearing mascara in it either.

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: calimama on November 23, 2008, 01:19:42 pm
I cannot seem to get my lashes into that eye lash curler... or the other way around for that matter.

But i did get some nice new glasses which i think provide a distraction from eye issues, so all is not lost.  ;D

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: thecakes on June 05, 2009, 06:41:53 am
  We are talking so much about mascara,  I use a consealer around my eyes also.  Can that dry your eyes out also?
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Meagan on June 05, 2009, 07:57:18 am
It hasn't with mine...the only thing i don't wear is eye makeup as I am putting in too many drops all day and it would get messy....
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: JudyT on June 05, 2009, 08:41:30 am
I have "dry eyes" (CK treatment).....Use Restatis....My eyes seem to be allergic to eyeliner now, crusty, itchy film occurs. I had permanent eyeliner put on professionally by registered nurse under sterile conditons. Looks good however mascara is an issue but the eyeliner helps also use cream eyeshadow instead of powder due to allergic reaction from dusty application. Lipstick is new issue though. Lips seem chapped and sore all the time. Since left half are numb lipstick kind of goes astray. Use a lot of chapstick.... lipstick only when absoliutely necessary for a short time because it causes burning sensation. I have had to change my whole makeup several times now. Lancome to Channel etc. Using Mary Kay now with some success.....( you can return it if it doesn't work out.) Mascara is a bust.....none is used.....allergic to all of it. NEVER had these problems before treatment. ????? Most of the time use only moisterizer. Can't even think about permanent lip color as it is so tender around lips and slow, painful application. Oh is only skin deep.

Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: epodjn on June 05, 2009, 01:43:18 pm
I've been reading these posts and I am amazed that some of you can actually get eye make up on. Between all the eye drops and manually closing my eye to keep it lubed up I would be a mess. Maybe after tarsorraphy? The surgeon said I would not need eye drops as often and would not need to manually close the eye as much. Sure hope he's right. I really miss wearing makeup. I'm blond with light, fine eye lashes. I look so washed out without any make up.
Title: Re: eye make-up
Post by: Kaybo on June 05, 2009, 02:08:43 pm
I didn't wear any eye make-up for all those years because I was putting Refresh PM in 24/7 - it almost acts as a make-up remover.  I didn't start wearing until long after I got  weight.  HOWEVER, now I don't have a weight in again and I use some Refresh PM after my shower of a morning and still am able to wear eyeliner (top & bottom) and mascara on the top(IF I get it on that day!) - I just am kind of careful.

Good luck!
K ;D