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Title: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 25, 2005, 11:44:15 am
Hi All,  I am fairly new to this site.  I was hoping you could answer some questions for me.  I have found that I have learned more from this site and your postings than anywhere else.  Your opinions would help me in considering my treatment options.

1.  Did you get a second opinions?
2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?
3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose?
4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?
5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?
6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?
7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown?
8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?
9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?
10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?

Feel free to add any other comments you think would help.  I hope I am not doing anything out of etiquette here, I am just trying to get the best kind of advice that I can, from people who have experienced it.

You guys are awesome!

Thank you! Suzanne

Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: Mark on October 25, 2005, 12:06:14 pm
1.  Did you get a second opinions?

Yes

2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?

Total of 4 from Neurosurgeons ( tons from interested parties  :) ) . Kaiser and UCSF docs promoted surgery and dissed radiosurgey, Stanford Docs offered both, suggested FSR as better option


3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose?

About 7-8 months, radiosurgery with CK

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?

N/A


5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?

Felt fine during and immediately after treatment, had several short and minor vertigo episodes and one significant one in the first 6 weeks, but nothing that interfered with work, exercise , etc in any major way

6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?

At this point, absolutely, no surgical trauma and all cranial nerve function at pre treatment levels

7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown?

4 years this November, some initial shrinkage, followed by no growth to this point. Certainly hoping to report same after my December MRI

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?

Stanford Medical Center  - Dr. Steven Chang / Iris Gibbs

9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?

AN archive, Univ of Pitts neurosurgery, CK society page on AN

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?


Yes, see response to 6 and 7 above

Hope that is helpful

Mark





Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: sirialison on October 25, 2005, 01:59:12 pm
Hi,  Suzanne - thought I'd take a stab at this for you...

1.  Did you get a second opinions?
Not officially, I suppose. My intial diagnosis was from the g.p. and I then went to Mayo Clinic to see a neurosurgeon and the ent specialist/surgeon. So, maybe that was the first and second opinion? Because my tumor was large (3.5 cm) and because of how I was feeling, I really didn't have a lot of options to get other opinions.

2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?
See above - but I did appreciate the docs at Mayo stating that if I wanted another opinion they would certainly refer/help me find another doctor/treatment option

3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose?
Diagnosed on 10/5/05; had consult at Mayo on 10/22/05; surgery at Mayo on 11/24/05. Retro-sigmoid surgery was done because of the size of the tumor.

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?
Sorry to be so sarcastic, but compared to WHAT?


6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?
THIS is a loaded question (for me!). I may have decided to do nothing at all!

7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown?
Almost one year. My tumor is completely gone according to the docs and the three month  post-op MRI - just waiting to do the one-year post-op check up now

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?
Mayo Clinic (St. Mary's Hospital), Rochester MN

9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?
ANA,anything else you can link to, read, get your hands on...

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?
This is a difficult question for me to answer - if I could go back and redo everything,and if I had had more time, I truly may have done something different! As far as the outcome...the surgeon's goal of total removal of the tumor with preservation of the facial neve was achieved successfully. As far as my goals, I am not so sure. I guess I thought I was informed but I really wasn't, so, I have some pretty serious quality of life issues I am dealing with right now. I am constantly comparing my life and symptoms pre-surgery to post-surgery and there are truly  many, many, many times that the ONLY difference between then and now is that I am not dead. Just be sure that you and the surgeons are on the same page - as surgeons, their measure of a successful treatment may be AND are very different than the patient's!
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 25, 2005, 02:19:05 pm
I really appreciate your responses and honesty!  I probably should have posted this in the general discussion area but I couldn't figure out how to move it once I had posted it.

Thank you both for sharing - it really helps me try to figure out all of this.  It is hard to deal with - it is all so confusing and I feel like a I am all alone in trying  to understand and sort through it.  I have my husband but ulitmately all of this is my decision.  I think making the decision is a huge stress in addition to just dealing with having AN.

I admire the courage and strength of everyone on this site.

Siri, I hope I didn't offend you with the feeling better question?  Wasn't my intention. :)  I apologize if I did.  Sounds like you are still struggling with everything.  I wish you all the best.

Thank you! Suzanne
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: jamie on October 25, 2005, 03:12:25 pm
Okay, here goes....


1.  Did you get a second opinions?

yes

2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?

I obtained three opinions, two neurosurgeons, and my radiation oncologist. The first neurosurgeon said I could watch and wait, have radiosurgery alone, or do what he suggested and have surgery to "debulk" followed by CyberKnife, however my tumor wasn't very large and wasn't causing any issues that warranted that, I guess he was just being a surgeon. Second opinion was a neurosurgeon who is a friend of my father, he said either surgery or radiosurgery were good options, he basically just said to get it treated one way or the other. My radiation oncologist recommended CyberKnife alone, and that is what I went with. 

3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose?

About two months. I chose radiosurgery with CyberKnife.

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?

After I decided I wasn't going to have surgery, lol.  ;D

5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?

The earaches caused by my tumor were pretty much gone immediately. I had mild transient headaches for about a month and a half after CK, but they were easily controlled by OTC pain meds, and are gone now.

6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?

Absolutely.

7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown?

It's been about two months, I feel great and I hope that is an indication that the treatment was succesfull. I get my first baseline scan in about a month.

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?

Barrow Neurological Institute.

9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?

Mark recommended a few good ones, also check out www.irsa.org

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?

So far it has. The results were the elimination of my morning earaches/headaches, the only symptoms caused by my tumor. I also feel much more at ease than before treatment, I feel that I've done something and I'm highly confident I made the right choice.

Other advice I have to offer, is to choose the treatment that you feel most comfortable with. Don't a specialist in either field stonewall you into their treatment by trying to frighten you away from the other. If you want it out of your head immediately, then you probably won't feel comfortable after radiosurgery. If you're comfortable with the tumor's growth being stopped, usually followed by shrinkage and in some cases even complete disappearance, then radiosurgery gives you the opportunity to avoid brain surgery, and save your facial function, and most likely your hearing as well. I think alot of people are bothered by the tumor staying for a while, I look at it in the sense that they're my schwann cells to begin with, the tumor wasn't planted there by aliens, and it's probably not going to explode. So I can wait for it to shrink up knowing that the cells most likely have lost their ability to reproduce, and if I'm in the very small minority of patients for whom radiosurgery doesn't work, I can always fall back on surgery.   

Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: sirialison on October 25, 2005, 03:23:25 pm
Suzanne - No offense taken!!!! It's just been one of those days...weeks...months...year!!!
Siri
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: okiesandy on October 25, 2005, 08:54:47 pm
Suzanne,

Just a note from someone who is still going through the decision process. 

I have been to two neurotologists. The first one was so God like that he could not relate to any of my fears. He also had very little experience with surgery. About 20.

Consulted with Dr. Brackmann. Wonderful man. His opinion is surgery only. At least he was fairly sure I could watch and wait and not jump into surgery.

2nd local neurotologist. Surgery was his advice. Did 2nd MRI and it had become cystic and grown. Take it out now was his advice. He was fairly laid back about post surgery complications and quality of life. After all it isn't his quality of life that is on the line.

Now I have an appointment with a radiation oncologist to check out GK and CK. I have spent 6 months thinking I would have surgery and not have done a lot of reseach and think maybe CK would be the better way to go. Who knows, may change my mind tomorrow. I joking said I was about to flip a coin to make the decision on another site. I kind of got a slapped around a little because of my attitude and did I understand how serious this is. Yup, I do. Just can't seem to make the leap of faith to do it.

Hang in there, you are asking the right questions. If you get the right answer let me know.
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 25, 2005, 09:22:01 pm
Okiesandy,

Hope your appointment goes well, would be interested in knowing what the Dr. has to say.  I too am considering CK and I am also considering FSR.  I go to the Radiation Oncologist Friday.  The thought of surgery scares me tremendously.  You are absolutely right - quality of life is on the line!  Couldn't have said it better myself.  What happens when the tumor becomes cystic?  I am sure it complicates things. 

Thanks for your feedback! Good luck!

Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: kristin on October 25, 2005, 11:23:06 pm
this is fun! i like surveys!

1. Did you get a second opinions?
well..kind of.

2. How many opinions did you get? Did they differ from the first?
my first referral was to an otolaryngologist in missoula, mt. i called his office to see how many AN patients he sees a year and the answer was 4 (that's FOUR) so i ex'd that referral. i called mayo clinic and asked to speak w/ a doc there..they said i needed an appointment. then i talked w/ a local ENT that was 100% for surgery, then called the oto-guy from missoula just for a consult, he also recommended surgery. both docs recommended dr. brackmann by name.

3. How long after diagnosis did you get treatment? What treatment did you choose?
it took me a month and a half of research, referrals and prayer to decide to have surgery at House Ear Clinic. my surgery was actually 4 1/2 months from dx.

4. How long after surgery did you feel better?
well...i played softball and started running on the treadmill 6 weeks post-op. i would have played ball sooner, but my mom said i couldn't until i went back to work. seemed only fair.

5. How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?
n/a

6. Would you choose the same treatment option again? If no, what would you do different?
yes. for sure. i'm very happy with my outcome.

7. How long has it been since your treatment? Has your AN grown?
6 months and 2 weeks (well...on thursday it will be two weeks! ;) ) will know if any re-growth when i have my follow-up MRI in april 06, but all docs involved say regrowth is not likely

8. Where did you get your surgery/radiation?
St. Vincent's Medical Center in LA. by Dr. Dereld Brackmann from the House Ear Clinic and Dr. William Hitselberger

9. Any sites you would recommend reading?
www.houseearclinic.com
www.kumc.edu/gec/support/acoustic.html


10. Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to? If so, what were the results?
yes. i don't have a tumor anymore!

Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 27, 2005, 02:39:16 pm
 :-*Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories!  Would love to read more!
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: okiesandy on October 27, 2005, 03:40:24 pm
Suzanne,

Let me know how your appointment goes. Mine is not until the 9th of November.  I am about researched out. I am very dissapointed in our medical professionals. I know now why they call it the practice of medicine.
Why can't these guys get together, get rid of the egos and find a solution that is really best for each particular patient?  After all, we are paying them. They work for us. There is only one God and I don't think he has Dr. before his name. Honest comparisons would be a great help.

Sandy
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 27, 2005, 05:42:24 pm
Sandy,

I agree.  I have been told so many different things.  A nurse told me that some doctors push certain treatments because they have invested $$ into the equipment and need to pay for it.  I have also been told that some equipment is privately owned and you need to ask who owns the equipment - the hospital or a group of doctors - as they stand to benefit personally from it.

Someone else told me that their equipment is the same as CK but just doesn't have the "fancy"name.  I called a radiation dept at a certain facility and whomever answered the phone said CK can't be used to treat AN.  I laughed.  I have been told that certain facilities have "hand me down" equipment from bigger institutions.  It makes you wonder what questions you should ask beyond "what is the best treatment".  Don't get me started on GLS "God Like Syndrome"  I have met many a medical professional that is suffering from it.  I guess if I paid that much for my education I would want to feel good too.  I do believe there are very good doctors out there who are in it for your best interest - so keep searching for them until you find the right doctor.

I am really looking forward to my visit with Dr. Kresl at Barrow's, I have heard wonderful things about him and their facility.  I am considering possibly getting input from Standford too.

Sorry to be so harsh - I'm having a bad day.  I apologize if I have offended anyone. :)
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2005, 07:38:00 pm
1.  Did you get a second opinions?
Yes
2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?
I got opinions from two nurosurgeons: Barrow Neurosurgical Institue and House Ear Clinic
3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose?
My first surgery was 6 weeks after diagnosis. Second surgery on remaining tumor was 20 monthslater. I had retrosigmoid approach first, in an attempt to preserve my hearing. Later, I had translab approach and auditory brainstem implant approach.
4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?
My constant headache was gone as soon as first surgery was finished. I was back to work full time 6 weeks after surgery. I was out of the hospital in 36 hours after the second surgery, and back to work full time in 6 weeks.
5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?
N/A
6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?
For my situation and life goals, I am happy with my course of action. I would choose the same course again. Although things haven't turned out perfectly, I made choices that I can live with.
7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown?
My last surgery was almost 2 years ago. My semiannual MRI scans show no regrowth.
8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?Barrow and House (surgery both times.
9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?
http://www.houseearclinic.com/
http://www.neurosurgery.pitt.edu/imageguided/acoustic_neuroma.html
http://www.virtualtrials.com/video3.cfm?clipid=113
10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?
In a larger sense, and in retrospect, yes. I have had a very large tumor completely removed with no facial nerve damage at all. Because I have a tumor on the other side (I have NF2), I am disappointed that my auditory brainstem implant did not give me sound sensations, but I will get another when I have the other tumor removed. My real goal though, is to have my other AN removed with no facial nerve damage, and I am hopeful that this will happen.

Jeff
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 27, 2005, 08:02:25 pm
Jeff,

Thanks for your response! I am curious how big your tumor was?  And how big is the tumor you still have?  Did you lose any hearing? Who's your Dr. at Barrow's? I am considering treatment there - I live in Phoenix.  I will definitely check out the sites you recommended.  Your implant surgery sounds very interesting, I have never heard of anything like that before?  I hope the next one works.  One more questions - Did you find both of your ANs at the same time or can they appear at different times?

I wish you all the best! Thanks again for sharing!
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2005, 08:47:08 pm
Jeff,

Thanks for your response! I am curious how big your tumor was?  And how big is the tumor you still have?  Did you lose any hearing? Who's your Dr. at Barrow's? I am considering treatment there - I live in Phoenix.  I will definitely check out the sites you recommended.  Your implant surgery sounds very interesting, I have never heard of anything like that before?  I hope the next one works.  One more questions - Did you find both of your ANs at the same time or can they appear at different times?

I wish you all the best! Thanks again for sharing!

Hi Suzanne,

Both tumors were discovered at the same time. I had a CT scan because of recurrent headaches and both tumors were quite evident. One was cystic. The radiologist report said 2.5 cm with 5 cm of cystic component. Doctors at both Barrow and House described it as life-threatening. The doctor's report from Barrow said it was "crushing" my brainstem. The other side was also 2.5 cm, but no cystic material. It is now 3.5 cm (I still have perfect hearing on that side).

I had no hearing loss prior to the retrosigmoid surgery, however I lost nearly all of it as a result of the surgery. After more research about NF2, I realized that it was highly likely that either these tumors or surgery would cause me to be deaf. I decided to go to House to have the remainder of the tumor removed and get the implant. You can read about the next generation of these implants at this link: http://www.hei.org/news/presskits/pabikit.html

My surgeon at Barrow was Dr. Spetzler. He is an excellent surgeon. Dr. Daspit was the neurotologist he teamed with for my surgery. He is very good also (did a fellowship at House). I know that there is another House fellow who is working with the Barrow AN team. His name is Dr. Syms. You can read about the Barrow AN team here: http://www.thebni.com/index.asp?catid=au&pg=ps_acoustic_team&supnav=ps_acoustic_neuroma_supnav
I spoke briefly with Dr. Porter about having GK on the remainder of the tumor, but I decided not to go that route. I think Barrow has highly qualified doctors and a top notch facility. In my opinion it would be worth your while to visit with them. In terms of surgery, one very noticeable difference between Barrow and House is that Barrow has interns working with them. Saw Dr. Spetzler for about 10 minutes before my surgery and he stopped in once while I was in the hospital recovering. The rest of the time I was followed by interns. At House the 6th floor of the hospital is the AN floor. Surgery, ICU and the ward are all very close together. As a result, I saw my doctors more than once per day while I was in the hospital. They would stop in to check on me between surgeries.

Best wishes to you to. I am sorry you have to go through this. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy! Let me know if I can answer any more questions.

Jeff
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: cookiesecond on October 27, 2005, 11:32:45 pm
Hi Suzanne,
My GP ordered the MRI that found my AN because of a back/neck injury.  I had been misdiagosed for several years and kinda put things on the back burner because I knew something was wrong and was scared to find out what. I now know you can't conquer what you won't confront!!!Iwas referred to a neurologist and then an ENT. Next I went to a neurotologist. He gave me literature to read and explained radiation and surgery.I was very impressed with him and really felt at ease with him. I had already lost 90%+ hearing on my AN side and was experiencing nausea and dizziness.He recommended surgery but did not push it.After researching I decided to have the translab approach. I had 5  months from diagnosis to surgery.I am still recovering as I had surgery 8-2-05. I did lose the rest of my hearing but I did not have any facial problems.They removed all of the tumor. I was in the hospital 6 days and got along very good. After being home about 2 weeks I developed meningitis and that was harder than the surgery. I was back in the hospital for 9 days. The meingitis slowed my recovery down a little but the only problrm I have now is occasional headaches and fatigue.I still get tired very easy and then I have headaches and sometimes I get dizzy but nothing like before the surgery.I thank God for my outcome and I would do it again. I struggled with which procedure to go with but after deciding I felt like a great weight had lifted. Dr. Cunningham is the neurotologist and my primary doctor. He is wonderful. Dr. Fukushima was the neurosurgeon and He is world renown for his work with ANs. I live in SC but I had surgery at Duke in NC.

I pray you will feel confident with your decision and have a great outcome.Family and friends are very important during this time.Take care and keep us posted.
Lynn
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on October 28, 2005, 10:34:05 am
I can't thank all of you enough for sharing your experiences with me.  I have been very moved by them and continue to be astounded by your strength and courage.  Your stories give me comfort in knowing that I am not alone and hope for the future.  I truly feel fortunate to have the benefit of hearing all of your collective wisdom and advice.

I wish you all nothing but the best and continued success in your recoveries.

Thank you! Suzanne
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: Kathleen_Mc on October 28, 2005, 11:23:32 am
Suzanne: Hi, hopefully my daughter will leave me alone for a minute or two.
1. When they found my orginal tumor I did not have a second opinion, I was all but dead and I didn't even think to. With my regrowth (orginal tumor regrew) I return to my orginal surgeon and was monitered by him for 5 years and then I asked for the sucker out. He had always said when I was ready he would do it (if it didn't become necessary before then, I wanted to finish having kids and wait until they were a little older). When I told him I was ready he refused to do it saying he couldn't justify it (likely a political thing) so I went to another doctor of a second opinion, he took it out.
2. My first tum or was too large and too critical for anything but surgery. With the regrowth I was offered gamma knife but declined, I really had nothing to save by it and would rather not have a big proton beam pointed at my head thank-you.
3. My orginal tumor was removed within two weeks of decovery. They regrowth was monitered for 5 and a half years
4. After my first resection I believed myself to be fine and ready to return to work around 3 months post-op. I realise now I was not. Looking back I was very tired, my judgement and concentration were impaired as well and I shouldn't have been back to work. Right now I am only 9 weeks post-op from the removal of the regrowth, better but still have along way to go.
5. N/A
6. I think if I had been offer gamma knife the first time around, if it had been a option I would have done it. But given that it wasn;t an option and the damage was done to the nerves even now post-op I would say I want the regrowtyh surgically removed
7. My first o.r. was Nov. 4 1990 at what is now known as the Western Division of the University Health network and the second at the Sunnybrook location of Sunnybrook and Women's Health Network both are here in Toronto, Canada
10. With my first surgery I don't recall being told pre-operatively that I would loose my hearing and that my balance and facial appearance would/could be affected, I do remember being told there was a 50% chance I would not survive the surgery and that post-op I may have to go into a rehab hospital to learn to walk, talk etc. again. I walked out of the hospital and went home 11 days post-op. The doctor was surprised.
This is a difficult time in your journey through surviving a.n., you will get through it.
Kathleen
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: kat on December 06, 2005, 04:04:45 pm
posted by Kat  UK

1 and 2 I had two consultations after my MRI scan which sowed a 2.2 cm AN . The first consultation was in Manchester
with Proff Ramsdens team ( My ENT specialist strongly recommended him ) They said that the tumour was pressing
on my brain stem and recommended surgery in 3 months time . They also thought that I did not have too much useful
hearing which would not be a great loss after surgery . Up to this moment I was feeling great with only tinnitus and
reduced hearing and was really not at all interested in 9 hours of brain surgery and long recovery and possible long
term side effects . I asked them about GK and FSR and only fairly negative opinions were given such as possibility of
malignancy difficulty of surgery if needed afterwards . I was back to square one . I managed to persuade my GP to request
an appointment in Sheffield about GK which I had with MR Kemeny confirmed that wait and see was not an option and
put me on a waiting list for GK .

3 I had GK treatment on the NHS 5 months later  . I was not in any hurry since I had holidays planned and since I was not
suffering I chose to have the free option rather that the quicker private route .

5 I felt fine almost immediately after the GK I only felt a bit tired like Jet lag for a few days but after that felt completely
recovered an carried on with my life as usual for 7 months . In the last few weeks I have experience som discomfort in my neck and some shooting pains in my head and ear on the side of the AN . I will be seeing a specialist in about 2 weeks about that.
6 It is ealrly days yet but yes I would choose GK rather than surgery.

7 I do not know if my AN has grown since I have not had another scan as yet.
8 I had my GK in UK Sheffield Royal Hallamshire Hospital .
9 There are too many to list but I recomment anyone trying to make a choice to visit as many sites as possible and be careful
with quest pages trying to look at case histories only for tumours about the same size as your own .
10 Too early to comment but I will know more after my first scan but so far so good .
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: GM on December 06, 2005, 06:27:52 pm
1.  Did you get a second opinions?  Nope...I saw the MRI...and I had an idea what they were testing for...couldn't miss the big white thing on the MRI  :)
2.  How many opinions did you get?  2 Doctors from the same hospital (Military...Portsmouth Naval Hospital).  Did they differ from the first?  No.
3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  I waited a month to gather up as much info as I could I scoured libraries, medical hospital libraries and the Internet.  Then I went to the Bahamas...I found out in June and had my Gamma Knife treatment in November of the same year.  What treatment did you choose?  GK
4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?  N/A
5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?  I really didn't feel bad before besides the hearing loss and the tinnitus.
6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  Yes   If no, what would you do different?
7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  2 years   Has your AN grown?  slightly from 1.8 cm - 2.0 cm
8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?  University of Virginia  Dr. Steiner
9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?   Yes

This one to find out about your doctor:

http://www.vahealthprovider.com/

This one to help deal with the tinitus:

http://p080.ezboard.com/btinnitussupport92262

and this one for AN info:

http://www.med.umn.edu/otol/library/aneuroma/index.htm


10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  Kinda, so far my hearing level is pretty much the same in my AN ear, I would have liked the tumor to collapse upon itself...but I'm optomistic!   If so, what were the results?  Still can hear!!  :)
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: tgentile on December 06, 2005, 07:07:28 pm
1.  Did you get a second opinions? Yes.

2.  How many opinions did you get?  Two. Did they differ from the first? Very similiar. Both were with skull base neurosurgeons. I must admit that I didn't consider radiation.

3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  Diagnosed 9/1/05 Removed 11/3/05 What treatment did you choose? Surgery, suboccipital, 1.7cm x 8mm.

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better? About 2 1/2 weeks. Still a bit dizzy but getting better every day. I'm going back to the office after the holidays. I've started working from home already though.
 
6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again? Yes, with the same surgical team.

7.  How long has it been since your treatment? Just over 30 days.

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation? Mt.Sinai in NYC.

9.  Any sites you would recommend reading? Be careful what you read. Some of it is outdated. It seems that there are so many negative outcomes reported and few positive reports. Do not get caught up in the "what if's". No matter what procedure you choose you will recover. Some of it depends on your attitude and your will to fight. No whining. No complaining.

Everybody will have a different outcome. Minimize problems by selecting a skilled team. Keep a positive attitude. ANs are benign. If you had to choose to have a tumor in your head, this is the one. Think of all of the less fortunate folks with medical problems. At least you can choose to be cured.

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to? I would say yes.  If so, what were the results? No tumor in my head, so I'm told. No facial problems and I can still hear. Ringing is still there but I've had that for a couple of years now so its become "normal".

The things I have learned from all of this...
Enjoy your time with family and friends. Hold those moments like gold. You don't get them back.
Laugh... a lot.
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: Goh on December 07, 2005, 02:39:33 am
Hi Suzanne,

               Sorry for the late response, Only saw yr email today.

(1) Yes I did get a second opinion

(2)  My first opinion was from a ENT specialist who recommended a translab surgery (my AN was 2cm by 1.8cm on the left and I had lost all useful hearing).  I saw a neurosurgeon next who was quite neutral. After much consideration, research and discussion with my wife I decided on the radiosurgery approach.

(3)   All in all I had my radiosurgery about 2 months after discovery of my condition.

(4)   NA.

(5)   I sufferred from some headache and quite severe vommitting for about a week.  I started work thereafter without any further complications.

(6)   Absolutely, it was fortunate that in view of the tumour size I was suitable for gamma knife treatment.

(7)   I underwent gamma knife in June 2004.  Had my first MRI scan in June 2005.  Tumour size was controlled ie. no further growth.  My next scan is in June 2006 and I am keeping my fingers crossed.

(8)   In Singapore at the Gamma Knife Centre.

(9)   The current site

(10)  I only want the AN to stop growing. So far this has been accomplished but I guess it is too soon to say for sure.  Like I said earlier I am keeping my fingers crossed.


        I hope the above will be of help to you and I wish you all the best and that whichever option you choose things will work out well for you.


Lam Chuan from Singapore     
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: CC on December 07, 2005, 05:12:33 pm
Wow - this survery is a great idea.  OK - answers:

1.  Did you get a second opinions? 
You betcha. 

2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?

I met with three neuro-otolaryngoligists and five neurosurgeons.  My own primary care physician made heaps of enquriies for me among his contacts and a great friend who is an infectious diseases specialist used his contacts to make domestic and overseas enquiries.  So you can say I had tons adn tons of different views!  As far as differing - the answer is yes.  In all but one case the microsurgeons recommended microsurgery, the radiosurgeons radiosurgery, etc.  Teh one case was the doctor I went with who practised both and recommended radiosurgery based on both my AN and my post-treatment lifestyle needs.

3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose?
I had CK radiosurgery 3 months after initial diagnosis.

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?
I assume you mean microsurgery as opposed to radiosurgery?  Most people who choose CK ro GK forget they're surgical procedures..

5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?
I never really felt bad - just very very tired - all the time.  But this week I feel fabulous!  So I guess the answer is 6 weeks top be back to normal (ie to the point where I can return to living my life at 110%)

6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?
Yes I would definitely choose it if I had exactly the same AN - size, location etc and the same needs - no loss of hearing, etc.

7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown?
6 weeks. Too early to tell.

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?
Stanford with Dr Chang and Dr Soltys.

9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?
This one, ANY research done on ANY method.  You really need to compare research data to make your own decision.

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?
Yes. I have not lost any hearing, have no balance ro other problems and am living my live as if I never had an AN.

CC
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: shoegirl on April 17, 2006, 10:36:49 pm
I started this tread shortly after I was first diagnosised - so I thought I would give it a try - and perhaps I'll try to update it in a year or so post treatment.


1.  Did you get second opinions?
Yes
2.  How many opinions did you get? 7  Did they differ from the first? Yes, the first one was from my primary care dr. and she recommended surgery. 
6 recommended radiation (3 specifically CK or GK), 3 said all options were open to me.

3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?   Just over 3 months
     What treatment did you choose? Cyberknife

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?  N/A

5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?  I felt really good (same as normal) about 10 days after CK.  But I never felt bad before treatment so the feeling bad part was just my reaction to CK - which was really pretty mild.

6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?
     I would absolutely choose CK again, if I had went the surgery route - I would have lost my hearing in my AN ear.

7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  4 months
     Has your AN grown? At 3 month post CK MRI - was pretty much the same size

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation? The Barrows Institute - Phoenix, AZ
9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?

http://www.neurosurgery.pitt.edu/imageguided/acoustic_neuroma.html
http://www.anarchive.org
http://www.thebni.com/index.asp?catid=au&pg=ps_acoustic_neuroma&supnav=ps_acoustic_neuroma_supnav
http://www.thebni.com/index.asp?pg=lc_cyberknife&supnav=lc_conf_ck_supnav&catid=au
http://www.anworld.com
http://www.cyberknifesupport.com
http://www.cksociety.org/patientinfo/radiosurgery_stereotactic_technology_comparisons.asp
http://www.houseearclinic.com/

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?
       I am very pleased with my results so far, still have my hearing & facial nerve (same as before), balance and everything else is pretty much as it was pre-CK.  I am hoping this will continue and that the tumor will die and never be heard from again.  Will try to update in 6 months or so to see if results continue to be the same. I hope others will add their stories to this thread or update their initial post.  I think it is important to note that you have to do what is right for you.  I am a firm believer that when you have a choice (some only have surgery as an option) to do all your homework, and then some - to make the best possible decision.  I am sure others can think of some other questions to add that would be helpful.
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: Battyp on April 18, 2006, 07:29:06 am
1.  Did you get a second opinions?and a third and fourth too!
2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first?No, they all said it must come out and within 6 weeks only option I had was retrosig due to position and size of the tumor
3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you chooseDiagnosed on Monday...first specialist consult by wednesday. I was diagnosed 7-11th and on a surgical table by 8-23 for retro.  I wasnt' given any options due to brain stem involvement?
4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?Better?  I'm suppose to feel better?  Still waiting for my world to stabilize  lol
5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?didn't have as an option but one I'd have strongly considered
6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?Given my choices...HECK YEAH  lol  I wanted to try to finish raising my son!
7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown? 8 mos, still in the clear for regrowth.  From diagnosis to treatment I was told it went from 2.5 to 2.8Cm but IMO it could have been a measuring difference between facilities.
8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?Tampa's Moffitt Cancer Hospital with Dr. Brem..lovely man!
9.  Any sites you would recommend reading? I think by now I've read them all and they all boil down to the same thing.  You're treatment outcome is only as good as your surgeons skill.  There is some truth to that and sometimes it depends on their skill and what they are presented during surgery.  There are too many unknown variables until they actually get in there and see what they are dealing with.
10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?Yes, I lived to talk about it.  Surgery on AN's success rate is based on whether you lived or died not how many problems you were left with.  Sad but true!  I'm alive but witha  lot of differences to what I was before.  No crystal ball will tell you how well you're outcome will be.
Title: Re: Informal Survey
Post by: ppearl214 on April 18, 2006, 08:19:58 am
1.  Did you get a second opinions? and many more

2.  How many opinions did you get?  Did they differ from the first? 3 microsurgical, 3 radio-surgery.  Only 1 microsurgical recommended surgery (the others said no, go with radio). The 3 radiosurgery were inquiries as to which one I wanted to go with.

3.  How long after diagnosis did you get treatment?  What treatment did you choose? Diagonosed May, 2005 and remained in wait/watch mode until noticable growth pattern occurred. Feb 2006 was suggested to treat.  Beginning April, 2006, had Cyberknife radiosurgery.

4.  How long after surgery did you feel better?  Only 2 wks post treatment now.. ask me again in a few months?

5.  How long after FSR/Gamma Knife/Cyberknife did you feel better?  see answer#4 above

6.  Would you choose the same treatment option again?  If no, what would you do different?  For me, I truly do believe it was the best option all the way around. Definately not questioning my decision or the process

7.  How long has it been since your treatment?  Has your AN grown? 2 wks post treat now. Too soon to tell.

8.  Where did you get your surgery/radiation?  Beth Israel CK Unit/Boston MA. 

9.  Any sites you would recommend reading?  Based on the sites I follow closely, the ANAUSA site! :)  Great folks, great info, a new "home away from home"

10.  Did your treatment accomplish what you wanted it to?  If so, what were the results?  Hoping so... ask me again down the road.