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Title: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: AliNYC on May 19, 2012, 01:44:19 pm
I was recently diagnosed with a Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma.  I am 37 years old, living in NYC.  Feel like I have no where to turn for support or additional information with regards to my Facial Nerve Neuroma.  Being that is so rare (estimated 500 cases per year), there just aren't many of us out there.  Any help in finding fellow FN people...would be appreciated!!

Thanks!

Ali
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: Jim Scott on May 19, 2012, 02:12:13 pm
Hi, Ali - and welcome ~

There are other FN patients that frequent these forums and I'm sure they'll be joining this thread, soon, so keep coming back here to check.

Meanwhile, please know that we're all here to offer whatever information we can, advice when requested and support, always.  Consider this a refuge of sorts.

Jim
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: Lou on May 19, 2012, 04:59:08 pm
Hi Ali
So sorry that you have had to join our club. I have to agree, it is so hard to find information about facial neuromas. this is a fantastic site to find information and to vent. I have found that the symptoms for acoustic and facial neuromas are very similar. Keep posting and asking questions, you will get the help you need
Lou
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: pjb on May 19, 2012, 05:08:54 pm
I was recently diagnosed with a Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma.  I am 37 years old, living in NYC.  Feel like I have no where to turn for support or additional information with regards to my Facial Nerve Neuroma.  Being that is so rare (estimated 500 cases per year), there just aren't many of us out there.  Any help in finding fellow FN people...would be appreciated!!

Thanks!

Ali
Hi, just wanted to say I am from NY as well but I do not have a Facial Neuroma but welcome to this group and hoping there will be others that will be able to help you. Have you decided what treatment to do have and you spoken to any doctors yet in NY? Our nerves are near but of course different functions so I would imagine if you decide on surgery I am almost sure the doctors will have to leave some behind I do not know if they would grow or not, I have a 3mm that was left behind of the 8th nerve and for 3 years now it has not grown.

Best Wishes,
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: Cheryl R on May 19, 2012, 06:33:18 pm
I am sorry to hear of your facial neuroma.    I have had one as one of 3 tumors I have had due to NF2.      I go to Univ of Iowa for my care.     I was told they are not always 100% sure it is a facial neuroma until one gets in there at time of surgery.    Basically they are the same as an acoustic neuroma but have to be much more careful to not damage the nerve.    Also one can not be sure what the tumor has already done to the nerve.  One has to see a neurotologist which has some experience with them.       Many but not all leave some of tumor to avoid damge to the nerve and then have radiation be done or if see the tumor does grow.        My surgeon told me before surgery that he would take part of a nerve from by my ear and graft in if the nerve was severed.    Mine did sever and was nerve grafted.      I look fine at rest but the smile is off and no movement around the eye.    My eye does close and has some occ dryness.   I use gel at night and only occ in the day.          My surgeon has only had around 15 FNs so they are not frequent.   I go to a surgeon who does 60-70 a year and I have been with him for 11 yrs now.                  The Fellow there at the time of my surgery was Dr Pamela Roehm and was at NYU.    I have not checked lately if she is still there.                How big is your tumor.     Mine was a fast grower and not sure if there one year and around 2 cm the next.   I only was just starting to have facial symptoms about a month before surgery. So any dr you see will need to really find out what experience they have had.           Not fun to have this kind of tumor and be nervous about the outcome.                           Cheryl R
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: AliNYC on May 21, 2012, 11:53:44 am
Thank you, everyone, for your responses, encouragement, and insight!  It helps to know that there are others that can relate to how I am feeling.  I have had 3 consultations so far.  NYU Langone with Dr. Golfinos, Sloan Kettering with Dr. Selesnick, and House Ear Clinic with Dr. Rick Friedman.  I feel best with Dr. Rick Friedman.  I have hearing loss on the left side so far.   No facial weakness, numbness or paralysis yet.  My tumor is small...about 5-7mm or so.  I started to lose my hearing last summer.  All 3 doctors have recommended wait and watch with a second MRI scheduled for October.  It is such a bizarre place to be in...like a cloud of some sorts following me everyday.  At the same time, I am oddly motivated to be positive and peaceful most of the time.  Really digging down deep to celebrate my inner strength and beauty... a lesson that not everyone has to learn or accomplish.  Going out to California to see Dr. Friedman at House to discuss his approach in depth in June.  Really looking forward to it!  Thanks, again, everyone!  Will keep you posted.

Ali
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: mindyandy on May 21, 2012, 12:40:24 pm
Ali
Great idea looking into all your options and keeping an open mind. When you travel to California to see Dr. Friedman tell him Mindy T says hello  ;D
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: pjb on May 21, 2012, 05:10:32 pm
Thank you, everyone, for your responses, encouragement, and insight!  It helps to know that there are others that can relate to how I am feeling.  I have had 3 consultations so far.  NYU Langone with Dr. Golfinos, Sloan Kettering with Dr. Selesnick, and House Ear Clinic with Dr. Rick Friedman.  I feel best with Dr. Rick Friedman.  I have hearing loss on the left side so far.   No facial weakness, numbness or paralysis yet.  My tumor is small...about 5-7mm or so.  I started to lose my hearing last summer.  All 3 doctors have recommended wait and watch with a second MRI scheduled for October.  It is such a bizarre place to be in...like a cloud of some sorts following me everyday.  At the same time, I am oddly motivated to be positive and peaceful most of the time.  Really digging down deep to celebrate my inner strength and beauty... a lesson that not everyone has to learn or accomplish.  Going out to California to see Dr. Friedman at House to discuss his approach in depth in June.  Really looking forward to it!  Thanks, again, everyone!  Will keep you posted.

Ali

Great choice with Dr. Friedman and Dr. Golfino is good as well there is also a Dr. Sisti at Columbia that is highly recommended by many.

Best Wishes,
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: G_Man on May 26, 2012, 10:59:50 pm
Ali
    The NYC chapter meeting is on June 9th at NYU Langone.  You might want to attend.  It's a great bunch of people and they all have inportant info to share about their experiences.

Glen
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: Chritine Upson on May 28, 2012, 04:06:26 pm
Hello there,
I also have a facial nerve neuroma which i am sure you will agree is no fun at all.
Mine was diagnosed over 5 years ago. I had unexplained twitching in my eye, cheek, lip and chin. Plus of course, terrible ringing & buzzing in my ear.
An MRI scan showed my tumor to be of considerable size but my surgeon decided that whilst it wasnt putting any pressure on my brain it would be wise to adopt the wait watch and scan policy.
Over time I have developed a facial palsy and paralysis of the affected side of my face (the LH side) and have almost no hearing in that ear too.
Radiotherapy isnt an option for me apparently and surgery would mean a severe facial palsy that couldnt be corrected.
My skull base surgeon decided it would be wise to address the paralysis rather than remove the tumor so in September last year I had a facial nerve graft and more surgery 6 weeks ago to connect the graft to the muscle... Hopefully in about 6 months there will be a big improvement and I will be able to smile again.
The tumor is still there but this is going to make me feel more confident again. A hearing aid is helping the deafness and also helps to mask the tinnitus. I am trying to be positive.
I have nothing but praise for my amazing Plastic Surgeon at Addenbrookes hospital, Cambridge, England...
Please get in touch. I would love to be able to chat to somebody else who has this very rare illness which makes us rather special I guess.
Regards
Christine
 
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: Jill Marie on May 28, 2012, 10:55:13 pm
Hi Ali,

I too had a Facial Nerve Neuroma, don't know the exact size, but it was described as large.  June 16th of this year it will be 20 years since it was entirely removed via the Translabyrinthine procedure.  My surgery was performed by Dr. Charles Mangham of the Seattle Ear Clinic.  I won't try to compare my procedure, diagnosis, results etc. with what you are going to have done as so much time has passed and things have changed a lot.  I'm deaf in the left ear, it was already shot before the surgery so they did the Translab to save as much of my facial function as they could.  I started loosing my hearing as a young child so I believe my tumor had been with me for about 30 years, I was 35 when it was removed.  My left eye closes 95%, it blinks with my right eye.  There is no tearing so I use LOTS of ointment, my main complaint.  I don't have any ringing or tinnitus and never did.  I have depth perceptions issues because of the eye ointment but my balance is pretty good.  My face looks normal at rest but smiling isn't something I do anymore, however I can still smile with my eyes and one can tell how I feel from what and how I say things.

I started working 30 hours a week 3 years after my surgery, I now work full time for the same company.  I celebrated my 35th wedding anniversary this March.  I had two young sons when I had my surgery, there doing fine.

Please keep in mind that every ones tumor is different as are the results.  The things my doctor told me I wouldn't be able to do after surgery I can do, things he said I could do I can't do.  One never knows. 

I love to take LONG walks and hike with my husband and two dogs.  Last year on vacation my husband and I rode our bicycles 40 miles in one day.

Keep us posted, Jill :)
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: AliNYC on June 12, 2012, 10:49:13 am
Thank you, everyone, for sharing your personal stories with me.  Since I last posted, I have been experiencing more hearing loss and more tinnitus.  I actually hear the tinnitus in the other ear at times too.  Anyone have any suggestions for remedies/relief for the tinnitus?  I am leaving for California this weekend for my consultation with Dr. Friedman at House.  I am looking forward to it!!  Will keep you posted!!

:) Ali
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: pjb on June 12, 2012, 07:27:37 pm
Thank you, everyone, for sharing your personal stories with me.  Since I last posted, I have been experiencing more hearing loss and more tinnitus.  I actually hear the tinnitus in the other ear at times too.  Anyone have any suggestions for remedies/relief for the tinnitus?  I am leaving for California this weekend for my consultation with Dr. Friedman at House.  I am looking forward to it!!  Will keep you posted!!

:) Ali

Just wanted to wish you luck with Dr. Friedman I think you made a good choice as far as the tinnitus I have a hearing aid called the Widex and it has a Zen mode that helps somewhat the only suggestion I have is to listen to soothing sounds in the ear for now there isn't much else that I heard will help with the tinnitus....Prayers coming your way and please keep us posted.

Best Wishes,
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: It is what it is on June 22, 2012, 07:02:12 am
Thanks for sharing your story.  I will be interested in what you learn from your consult. 
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: leapyrtwins on June 22, 2012, 02:49:57 pm
Anyone have any suggestions for remedies/relief for the tinnitus? 

At this time there are no known cures for tinnitus.

Lots of people who have tinnitus say that a change in diet helps a lot - things like eliminating caffeine. 

Jan
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: snowbaby on April 24, 2013, 01:51:21 pm
I was recently diagnosed with a Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma.  I am 37 years old, living in NYC.  Feel like I have no where to turn for support or additional information with regards to my Facial Nerve Neuroma.  Being that is so rare (estimated 500 cases per year), there just aren't many of us out there.  Any help in finding fellow FN people...would be appreciated!!

Thanks!

Ali

Hi Ali...I, too have/had a facial nerve neuroma...just had surgery to remove a large portion of it on February 9, 2013.  It was a success, dr was able to get 90% of it with no ill effects!  Waiting on results from follow up MRI to see how its looking.  I'm in TX, and went with Dr. Yoav Hahn at Dallas Ear Institute.  Hope all goes well with your research, stay positive!
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: chronswfe on August 26, 2013, 02:37:31 pm
I am a 46 year old female diagnosed with a facial neuroma in 2005. My tumor was at the geniculate ganglion left side. I had symptoms of a swooshing sound in my ear, feeling off balance and severe ear pain. I had surgery in May 2006 at UAMS in Little Rock Arkansas. I have House Brackman score of 2 but was a 4 post op. I used b complex vitamins and facial massage and stimulation by a speech/language pathologist. I have recently been diagnosed with a recurrent tumor at the same spot and its 5mm. Trying to decide if surgery is an option I want right now. There is not much on FN on the forums.
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: nftwoed on August 26, 2013, 06:38:50 pm
Hi;
   well, in general, radiation generally followed surgery and vice versa. seems either way you may have some temporary ( 2 or 3 yrs. ) facial nerve weakness, but, the motor nerve is resilient and able to regenerate. what does the pathologist think?
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: RubesBYU on May 08, 2014, 08:39:43 am
Hey all,

New to the forum as of today.  I was diagnosed with a FNS back in 2008.  A biopsy confirmed the diagnosis (most painful thing ever). 

But luckily for me, I have no symptoms with my facial muscles and only minor hearing loss in my left ear (even though my wife says I don't listen/can't hear anything  ;D)

Dr. Friedman has been great and he has taken a "let's watch it approach.  I was 27 when I first was diagnosed and so far so good.  I def. feel it has grown but I have had no other symptoms. 

Good luck.  Nice to see this forum as when I was diagnosed there was virtually nothing on-line about the subject. 
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: SColeman on May 17, 2014, 05:56:16 pm
Hi all,

I am having surgery this week for a facial nerve neuroma that is approximately 29 mm.  I do not have any hearing on the right side where it is, but I do not have facial paralysis.  My surgeons in Houston, TX are planning to reduce the tumor and leave the facial nerve intact.  I am nervous about the craniotomy.  I will keep you posted.
 

Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: herewego25 on August 17, 2014, 10:01:57 am
Hello,

I was just diagnosed with a  facial schwannoma, I am 25 and it is just under and inch in size. it was found after an ear surgeon thought it was a cyst and tried to remove it. It had eaten through my ear canal. I was wondering if anyone had words of advice or found a surgeon that they really liked and would highly recommend. I live in Colorado but am very willing to travel to get to a surgeon who is comfortable and skilled in this situation. I was also wondering what my recovery will look like?

Thank you
Title: Re: Facial Nerve Schwannoma/Neuroma
Post by: jeninla on August 17, 2014, 04:58:18 pm
Herewego25,

I would check with the surgeons (Slattery/Schwartz) at House Ear Institute in Los Angeles.  They are very experienced and skilled at these type of surgeries.  I just had surgery there last week and they were able to remove my AN, and preserve my hearing and facial nerves through retro sig.  I didn't have facial schwannoma so I cannot say how different the recovery will be from AN but I'm sure others can speak of that.

Good luck!