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Title: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on May 29, 2010, 05:22:37 am
Well Robert had his translab surgery at U of M here in Ann Arbor on Wednesday 5/26.  It was a 10.5  hour surgery. His Left side AN was a bit larger than they expected.  It was measuring at 2.0 cm in March by MRI and it was right around 3.0 cm at the time of the surgery.  So it was definately growing faster than normal.   Dr. El Kashlan and Dr. Thompson were excellent!!  They were able to get it all thankfully.  he is recoverying nicely.   He had some nausea and headaches shortly after surgery but he hasnt even really used the pain meds they have offered.   Up and about  no real balance issues.  He has been walking the halls and doing pretty good.

We were told yesterday that we might be going home this morning, however it looks like Robert may have developed a CSF leak.  They are waiting to confer with both the ENT and Neuro team to decide if they want to keep him here another day.  They just took out his abdominal drain, and will soon remove his head bandage.   So I guess today is a waiting game..
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Denise S on May 29, 2010, 05:40:18 am
Hi Alexis!  I have been wondering about my fellow Michganders.   I noticed you hadn't posted much at all and wasn't positive what you guys decided to do.     So glad to hear he had the surgery and ALL the tumor was taken out.  That is great news.       Now as for CSF leak...I am not as familiar with, but have to say glad he is still in the hospital and they will do what is needed.

Wishing you guys the best.   Be sure Robert gets plenty of rest, but is walking or doing whatever exercises he is told when he can.

Sure has been some beautiful weather here in Michigan.   Will be great recovery weather...even to just sit outside & enjoy our beautiful mother nature sounds & scenes  ;)

You may notice that Sue & Carol Ann both from MI had Translab surgery too.  Sue a week ago Thursday & Carol Ann this past Thursday.    I know another lady from the U.P. of Michigan having her surgery in a couple weeks too....Translab.     MI doctors are staying busy.

Sent you a PM too, if you ever need to chat, feel free to call me.  

Robert & your family will be in my prayers for a speedy, healthy recovery.    Thanks again for posting update!
Denise (Ludington,MI)
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Tracy Lynn on May 29, 2010, 09:02:02 am
Glad to hear everything is going so well. Sounds like they got his out in good time considering its growth rate.

I think its great when you don't need to take the pain meds, but its handy to have them nearby just in case. The nurses kept telling me to stay on top of the pain, and I think there was only one time that I regret not listening to them. He may feel more human after moving down to Ibuprofen or something OTC.

Happy to hear that he is up and moving, thats half the battle.

I do hope that you are still doing well Robert, prayers your way for certain.
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Kaybee on May 29, 2010, 09:15:27 am
Hello, best wishes for the recovery of CSF leak.  As Denise S said, you're in the right place!  Walking the halls is excellent news--something that I was not able to do in the hospital. 
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: jennifer7 on May 29, 2010, 10:19:30 am
Hi Alexis
Dr El Kashlan and Dr Thompson removed my AN in Feb, I have only nice things to say about them too!  My surgery lasted about 10 hours but they also removed all of the tumor and preserved my hearing. 
I hope the CSF leak turns out not to be one and the rest of recovery continues being easy.
Jennifer
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on May 29, 2010, 11:08:16 am
It is definately a CSF leak.  They will be by later today to put in a lumbar drain??  I think that is what they said.  He is being restricted to lest up and around, and once the lumbar thing is in it will be bedrest for a while.   Definately not going home today and possibly not tomorrow.  They want to watch this and make sure everything is ok.  That is fine with us rather be here and have it taken care of them home and then freak the kids out with our trying to rush back 45 min to the hospital.
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: jennifer7 on May 29, 2010, 11:25:08 am
Sorry about the leak, my roommate when I was at U of M had one and they gave her a lumbar drain.  She was flat on her back until after I left the hospital 3 days later.  She had back surgery not brain so hopefully your husband will be up even quicker.
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Jim Scott on May 29, 2010, 02:00:00 pm
Hi, Alexis ~

Thanks for keeping us updated on Robert's post-op progress.  Those CSF leaks are a fairly common post-op complication but the lumbar drain should handle it.  It's likely that Robert won't be leaving the hospital in the next few days - but that will be determined by his doctors.  Frankly, it's better this CSF leak occurred while he was still a hospital patient rather than later, when he's home and then has to be re-admitted.  I hope the drain will be out soon and Robert can resume what seemed like a rapid recovery.  Your advocacy for and presence with him is definitely an asset to your husband.  Well done, Alexis. 

Jim
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Denise S on May 29, 2010, 02:24:27 pm
Gee, I have to say I once again think Jim took the words right out of my 'brain'  ;D   So basically I will say Ditto to what he said!!

How are the kids doing overall with dad having surgery?   Glad to hear that family made it in to help you guys out!   

Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on May 29, 2010, 02:55:44 pm
Good news and Bad news... 

Good news we have a private room at last!!!!   

Bad News,  we are definately not leaving in a day or two.  They will put the lumbar drain in this afternoon then flat on his back slightly elevated for the next 3 days.  So maybe home by wednesday.   

I agree better now than once we got home.  I am sure that would totally freak out the kids.

Kids are so far ok about the surgery they just want Daddy well.  Thomas my 7 year old was ok with us not being there today for his birthday.  He has Grandma / grandpa, and other grandma there plus brother and sister and 4 dogs.    We havent yet told them about not being home for another few days.  We will see how that turns out.  I will keep you updated.

He is a little disappointed in that he has been feeling great.. pain is actually very manageable maybe a 3-4 at the worst.  He has been up walking the halls unassisted, no real balance problems, no facial nerve problems,  some minor nausea but that might have been a result of the anesthesia.  He does have the obvious SSD, but that was  expected.  His preop work showed that his left vestibular nerve was 97% non functioning so that explains the balance.  He feels a little bummed kind of a 1 step forward but 2 back..  Discouragement is setting in, and I am trying to think of ways to cheer him up. 

He doesnt want the kids to see him like this.  I am sure that is normal, but I am also sure the kids want to see both of us.  Not sure what we are going to do about visitors..    His mother is supposed to fly back out to CA on Wednesday so she will be having a hard time with this change.   Not sure what can be done there though, she has to get back she has already been here a week.   She has a cold too so really doesnt feel comfortable coming to visit, she doesnt want to get us sick. 

I may have to go find a Walmart to buy some new clothes..  I am running out of stuff to wear,  I really dont want to drive all the way home and back just for clothes.  I might as well spend the $$ i would spend on gas on a few new things,  sweats and t shirts mostly.  I will update more later after we talk to the family.  We are now just waiting for the lumbar drain to be put in.
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: kiwi on May 29, 2010, 08:49:39 pm
I'm sorry about the CSF leak, from experience they are not fun.   On the positive side though at least it is now and not later, as another surgery is not pleasant. Thoughts are with you.

Jacqui
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on May 30, 2010, 06:19:46 am
Quick Vent Sorry --

Lumbar drain ordered at 2pm on Saturday... ok its now 8 am on Sunday and still dont have the drain put in... is this a conspiracy on the billing department's behalf so that we have to stay here extra time. The lumbar drain needs to be draining for 48 hours and then clamped off and left to sit for 24 to see if he is still leaking... we just wasted 18 hours!!!
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Cheryl R on May 30, 2010, 07:22:35 am
Is it maybe the weekend and the right dr isn't around to put one in?           Just a guess from a retired nurse?        That is terrible though and you need to be told why and when.          I hope this happens soon and all goes well.
                                                                     Cheryl R
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: sues1953 on May 30, 2010, 07:44:36 am
Hi Alexis,Thank you for posting Roberts progress.  I am sorry that he (and your family) are having to go through all of this.  I had surgery on May 20th and the recovery does seem to have its own way.  Please know that he is in my prayers. 

Sue in Michigan
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Denise S on May 30, 2010, 10:55:30 am
Alexis, that is just crazy!!   BUT, I'm thinking maybe Cheryl might be right...plus a holiday weekend.    Your conspiracy thought is kind of funny, but more than likely the billing department is gone for the weekend too...?     Is he having headaches?    I was just reading some of my AN booklets last night and seen the CSF topic and thought of you guys.   It said sometimes they can have severe headaches until it is treated.   Hopefully he isn't!!    Be strong & be his advocate by insisting to find out what the heck is going on & what is taking so long (of course always easier said than done)  ;)   

You mentioned either here or in message about clothes shopping.   You could go get some new capri's or something like lightweight lounging clothes and consider it just some new summer clothes  ;D    Great too they are letting you stay in there with him.   My husband was able to do that & since we lived 3 1/2 hrs. away from Novi, it saved lots of money on hotel fees.

Hopefully Roberts spirits are up.   As for the kids visiting, that can be tricky since everyones kids are different at how they take things.   I had emergency hysterectomy when my boys were 7 & 9 and had a couple complications after.  We debated on letting them come to hospital, but we figured they should and it is all part of lifes journeys, etc.    Seems like a lot of times kids think hospitals are scary & we didn't want them to think that way.   We used it more as the tool of how much they help people, etc.   (make sense?)   Good luck with everything!   Will his mother at least be able to come see him if he don't get home before she leaves?

Well, continuing to think of you guys!!   A cyber hug for you both & keeping you in my prayers!
Denise
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Rich56 on May 31, 2010, 10:26:43 am
Alexis the CSF situation really stinks, but in the big picture of things....they were able to remove the AN completely, that is great news :)

Seeing your spouse go through something like this is tough for sure, and can take a lot out of you as well.  Please make sure you take time to eat, and rest also.

Our thoughts will be with you, Robert, and the kids, as you all try to get through this very rough patch.

Happy Birthday to Thomas :)

Rich and Scarlett
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on June 02, 2010, 07:53:43 pm
Minor drama with the test for CSF.  There was a mix up with robert's lab work, they had it they didnt, they sent it out, they didnt,.. They only do the test one day a week.. they are waiting to send the test out until they have a batch.. Sent the test out, didnt send the test out. Did the test in house, dont have the results. oh yeah we do.    meanwhile Robert and I are sitting here for 5 days waiting for the test results. ... ARRRGG   

The test came back positive for CSF.  So he does have a leak. They have been very proactive in treating him with a med so far that should help stop the leak. At this point they will be checking for continuation of the leak in the morning. IF it is leaking in the morning still they WILL start a Lumbar Drain that will put him on his back on
bedrest for the next 3 days. If he doesnt leak they will send him home...

So I am asking all you prayer warriors to pray.. We know that God can heal this, he has already done so much, we just need to make it through tomorrow
morning with no further leakage. He hasnt had any leaking since yesterday afternoon... but then again they haven't forced him into a position that
causes it to leak. Also the amount of drainage has gone down significantly since saturday when they started him on the meds. He also doesnt have any
of the other symptoms of CSF leak, no headaches nothing just a very occasional drip out of the nose and only when he is sitting chin to chest for long periods of time so that is a miracle in itself, so GOD is GOOD, and we know he can heal this away as well.

I will update more when I can.

Alexis
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Denise S on June 02, 2010, 08:17:54 pm
Thanks for the updates!

YOU ARE IN OUR PRAYERS FOR SURE!!!

Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: CHD63 on June 02, 2010, 09:11:54 pm
Alexis .....

You and Robert have been through way more than your share in this journey!

Many thoughts and many prayers that the leak is stopping and he will soon be on the real road to complete recovery.

Clarice
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: sues1953 on June 03, 2010, 05:53:14 am
Dear Alexis,

Thank you so much for the update.  I am praying that Robert is released today.  I am two weeks out and have had a reaction to the stitches and can't help but wonder if t here is some leakage, nothing comming out of the incision but it is quite puffy.  The Dr. looked at it and put me back on antiobiotics, stitches are still in.  So am am wondering what other symptoms Robert has.  I do have drainage down the back of my throat and I have to keep brushing me teeth to get rid of the terrible taste in my mouth.  The headachs are manageble with excedrin every 4 hours.

Best reguards to Robert, you and your boys.

Sue
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on June 03, 2010, 05:58:50 pm
Definately still leaking.. They are putting a lumbar drain in tonight hopefully. So looks like we will be here another few days.

Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: jaylogs on June 03, 2010, 09:07:50 pm
Wow...I just am getting caught up with this thread...I am so sorry that you are having to go through all that!! I know that it was good that this was caught before he left the hospital, but it sure doesn't feel better sometimes when you feel like you guys are just wasting time.  Insurance/hospitals sometimes get a bit on the stupid side. BUT, as it was mentioned, your hubby does have that out of his head and after time this will all just be a memory.  Don't get too frustrated, I find making lots of wisecracking jokes at someone's expense helps ease the tension! LOL...keep us updated on how things are going, take care!
Jay
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: knakag01 on June 04, 2010, 11:32:58 am
Alexis,

I am just getting caught up on all that has been going on and am so sorry to hear of Robert's post-op issues. You, Robert and your family are in my prayers. I do hope things turn around soon!

Take care,
Kim
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: mom2cbnt on June 09, 2010, 08:20:17 pm
Quick Post...

We are home.  Lumbar drain worked great..  Robert is tired and resting alot, but hey he is excited he played his Xbox 360 today and didnt get dizzy or nauseaus. :)

Its the little things in life :)

post more later
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Lizard on June 10, 2010, 11:30:24 am
I'm so happy you are finally home and there's no more leaking. Thanks for the great news and cheers to successful recovery!
Liz
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: Jim Scott on June 10, 2010, 01:42:08 pm
Alexis ~

Thanks for the update and congratulations to Robert on the lumbar drain success and now, being home.  I trust Robert's recovery will continue apace.  :)

Jim
Title: Re: Post surgery update
Post by: sues1953 on June 10, 2010, 08:29:18 pm
I wish you well.  I am so glad that you are home.  Please take care, you are in my prayers.  Keep us posted Sue