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Title: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 01, 2009, 11:29:28 am
 :) I'm scheduled to have a Gold Weight implanted in my left eye-lid next week.  Any advise on what to expect during and after this out-patient procedure?
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: nancyann on October 01, 2009, 04:52:27 pm
The surgery's a breeze compared to the AN nightmare !    I had some swelling & bruising - used ice packs when I got home.  Some Tylenol for pain, but it wasn't bad.
You'll really appreciate how good your eye looks with the weight (my eye was wide open before the weight).  I went back to work after a few days.
Always good thoughts,  Nancy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: saralynn143 on October 01, 2009, 05:39:27 pm
My ophthalmologist told me that I could expect a black eye for up to four weeks. But I didn't get one at all! Everyone in the office came to see the miracle lady at my one-week checkup. In general I bruise very easily so I thought I would have a black eye for sure.

I was scrupulous in keeping it iced that first evening, which I am sure helped.

Best wishes for an equally successful procedure.

Sara
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 01, 2009, 05:44:37 pm
Thanks Ladies, I can't wait for it to be done already...I'm tired of having to tape my eye shut and wearing an eye patch...very unpleasant as I'm sure you know.

Take Care!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: mandy721 on October 01, 2009, 06:48:52 pm
My husband's was done when he was still in the hospital, but it was a quick in and out at The Eye Institute.  The procedure took about an hour and he was feeling OK when he was  wheeled back to his room.  He looked like he had been in quite a fight, but the swelling, which was minor, receded after a few days, as did the discoloration.  Just like Nancyann, Ken feels that the weight was a good decision;  being able to close the eye is fantastic and has made life better.  He now uses a Glad Press and Peel (I think that's the name) patch at night under his sleep mask which is a lot easier than taping. 

Mandy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 02, 2009, 06:04:42 am
Mandy,

My schedule has me getting on a flight three days after the procedure, is that a good idea? 

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: mandy721 on October 02, 2009, 06:57:27 am
Doc,

Ken thinks it would have been ok to fly with three days aftr surgery.  Must disclose that his procedure was done about two weeks after a very complicated AN surgery and he was still recovering from that.  If you are traveling,make sure that you have an adequate supply of ointment, drops and anything else you are using for the eye.  Ken continues to cover the eye at night with  a piece of Glad Wrap to keep the moisture in.

Mandy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Kaybo on October 02, 2009, 07:04:43 am
Doc~
I have had several of these over my 13 years and they are a piece of cake!!  I actually went from one straight to my daughter's soccer game so I don't think that flying will be any problem!  I use frozen peas in little baggies as ice bag since they can "mold" to the shape more and get the cold where it needs to be.  I bruise easy & had horrible bruises every time EXCEPT the one time right around Halloween that I WANTED it to bruise!  LOL! 
Good Luck!!

K   ;D
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 02, 2009, 07:43:22 am
Thanks Kay, I really wasn't too worried about anything going terribly wrong because of a plane ride.  It was more of a cosmetic issue; would I scare small children in the airport with a giant puffy eye..stuff like that. 

You talk about bruising easily, I take Plavix for the half dozen stents in my heart so not only do I bleed easily, I bruise like an inept prize fighter.  I'll stop taking the Plavix this Sunday night, same schedule as my surgery, three days prior.  My Cardiologist doesn't like it when I come off the Plavix but we don't have much of a choice, it's the only way they can do any procedure without me bleeding all over the place.  During my nine hour AN surgery, they had a Cardiologist at the ready because I also had a Triple Bypass last year and there was some concern there.  My Neuro Surgeon was more worried about my heart stopping during the surgery than anything less and said he'd limit the length of the Surgery based on how my heart was doing under the strain.  It hasn't been an easy 18 months for me, first the Bypass Surgery and than this, I sometimes wonder who I pissed off?

Thanks again!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 02, 2009, 07:48:29 am
~Doc~
Kind of like a visit to the dentist in comparison to AN surgery.
Keep it iced like people say. 20 min on, 20 min off after surgery, and don't leave the hospital without ice!
Motrin too for swelling if they allow it. And lots of eye ointment......
With the eye weight I'm unable to close the eye lying flat and still use a little piece of paper tape at night. Actually the Glad press and seal is a great idea, Mandy!
I've also started acupuncture to help "move" the face along (different thread) and the eye is closing easier with treatments.
When I have the needles in, I can actually close that left eye lying down with some effort.
Good luck next week :)
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 02, 2009, 07:57:45 am
Thanks Maureen...acupuncture ah?  My son is going to be driving me down to the Marietta Surgical Center where the procedure is being done, and we've already talked about making sure we have our own ice or bags of frozen pee's in the car ready for the ride home just in case.  Yeah, Glad press and seal; I would have never thought of using it...right now I'm taping my left eye shut and than putting a stick on patch over the tape so I look a little less ridiculous...easier said than done!  I'm wearing the tape and patch 24/7...hopefully that will change after the procedure next Wednesday...which will also be my ninth week out right to the day!  :)

Thanks again!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: nancyann on October 02, 2009, 03:40:28 pm
Doc:  FYI:  I use something called NITEYE Bubble Bandage,the Dry Eye comforter every night.  It's a plastic oval with adhesive all around it - I found it alot easier to use than plastic wrap, & the glad & seal didn't work for me (I can't figure the stuff out !).   Anyway,  the NITEYE is pricey, about $21.00 for 14 nonsterile bandages.
The people at Medtronic are great - 1st you get a customer #, then you call back the next day & they take your order - I get mine (by the case now) usually the next business day or so.   If you're interested the tel # is 1-800-974-5797.

Always good thoughts,  Nancy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 02, 2009, 05:52:25 pm
Doc:  FYI:  I use something called NITEYE Bubble Bandage,the Dry Eye comforter every night.  It's a plastic oval with adhesive all around it - I found it alot easier to use than plastic wrap, & the glad & seal didn't work for me (I can't figure the stuff out !).   Anyway,  the NITEYE is pricey, about $21.00 for 14 nonsterile bandages.
The people at Medtronic are great - 1st you get a customer #, then you call back the next day & they take your order - I get mine (by the case now) usually the next business day or so.   If you're interested the tel # is 1-800-974-5797.

Always good thoughts,  Nancy

Thanks Nancy, I hadn't heard of NITEYE until now.  I'll make that call Monday check it out!

Thanks for the info!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 02, 2009, 05:55:27 pm
Nancy,

Did a Google search, NITEYE is available on-line at https://store.medtronicent.com/product.php?productid=16303&cat=0&bestseller (https://store.medtronicent.com/product.php?productid=16303&cat=0&bestseller).  

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 02, 2009, 06:04:01 pm
Disregard my last--the web site ordering system is for Doctor's only, crap...Doc is only nick name!
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: nancyann on October 03, 2009, 07:02:34 am
Yep, that's a picture of it.  I wipe around my eye 1st with rubbing alcohol & let it dry for better adhesion. (I also put on a breathe right strip 1st to open my collapsed right sinus from the AN! you may not need this) - looks funny but it works.  Only wear the NITEYE for sleep - you're not suppose to keep it on for more than 12 hours, risk of infection.
I've been using them for over a year now & no problems.   I buy them by the case & save $100 or so.  Since you may only need them temporarily, see how you like it 1st.

Always good thoughts,  Nancy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 04, 2009, 09:49:58 am
I'm going to call them Monday morning and place an order for a box and see how they work for me...thanks Nancy for the tip...!

Enjoy your Sunday, Nancy!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: TP on October 05, 2009, 06:29:09 am
The gold weight procedure for me was very simple. For my last stay in the hospital (I had been in for a CSF repair surgery and a lumbar drain) they took me into the surgery room, gave me a little anesthesia (I was awake) and they cut my eye lid and inserted the gold weight and stitched me up. Took about 20 minutes. I was back in my room and discharged a few hours later. I don't recall having a black eye or any problems except I could feel something in my eye lid when I closed my eye.

16 months or so later, taking the gold weight out was even more simple for me. I went into my eye Dr's office, they put me in a chair, gave me a shot for numbing, my husband was actually sitting in the room and watched and my eye Dr slit my eye, took out the little gold weight, one of the stitches was holding onto the weight, he had to work on that for a few minutes and got the weight out, stitched me up and I was good to go. It was a little red but looked great.

The neat thing about my husband being in there with me was he could joke and say I was like Rocky about cutting my eye lid. He found that little surgery interesting and helped bring comic relief to something that is usually serious.
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: opp2 on October 05, 2009, 10:53:20 am
Did they give you the gold so you could sell it ;D :o? Pretty good price for gold by the ounce these days!!
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 05, 2009, 06:14:06 pm
LUCKY YOU TP, :)
You got your gold weight out! It feels so cumbersome for me. But  a necessity to keep the eye protected.
How did they determine that you could get the weight out? Did they do a facial nerve test? (What are those called?)
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 05, 2009, 06:28:14 pm
My Aunt Shirley just called to wish me well on Wednesday's procedure and told during our conversation, her friend has had a Gold Weight in her Eye Lid for over twenty years.  I know this woman and never noticed anything different about her or would have known had my aunt not just told me.  I don't want to have mine in for any longer than necessary but if it has to stay I guess it isn't such a bad thing.  I really don't think there is any thing to worry about; can't wait to get it done already!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 05, 2009, 06:33:39 pm
Hey Doc,
That's the spirit! good luck tomorrow. Will be a piece of cake :)
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: TP on October 06, 2009, 06:07:19 am
I was seeing another eye Dr for my double vision problem. I asked her if I should have my gold weight removed prior to my double vision surgery (that was scheduled at about 13 months from receiving my gold weight) and she said no, she suggested that I wait a few more months, reason why I waited. I contacted my original eye Dr at about 16 months out and went into his office and he removed it. I never really thought that my eye wouldn't close afterwards but it did and yes I kept my gold weight and made a beautiful original gold pendant that I wear around my neck. 
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 07, 2009, 03:17:54 am
Today's the big day.  Leaving shortly for the Surgical Center to have the Gold Weight Implant procedure.  Have to be there at six, procedure is at eight....yeah baby, I'll be able to close my left eye after nine weeks of taping it shut and wearing patches twenty four seven...!

  :)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 07, 2009, 08:57:53 am
Yea good luck!
Give yourself a couple of weeks for things to get to a new "normal" for your eye.
Ice,ice,ice,
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: doctorb on October 07, 2009, 10:02:44 am
Well, that was easy, in at 8:00 out just after 9:00. The Surgeon Implanted a 1.8 gram gold weight in my left eye lid and tightened up the lower lid...immediate results. He had me opening and closing my eye while I was still on the table...first time since the Brain Surgery I've been able to do that, nine weeks now...very, very cool!

Dressing comes off at five this evening and than just ice packs, Erythromycin Eye Ointment for the incision 3x a day for 1 week. Some bruising and swelling to be expected he says...I haven't taken the ice off since I walked out there over an hour ago...have four bags of frozen pea's at the ready!

Thanks everyone for your advise and support!

Take Care!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: cindyj on October 07, 2009, 02:54:06 pm
Glad you can "blink" now, Doc!  Know you're very happy about it! 

Cindy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Jim Scott on October 07, 2009, 02:59:40 pm
Doc ~

Congratulations on receiving your implant.  I'm pleased  to learn that the results were immediate.  Take care - and enjoy the benefits of this procedure!

Jim
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: nancyann on October 07, 2009, 03:35:53 pm
WHOO HOO ! !  Great news doc ! 

always good thoughts,  Nancy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: TP on October 07, 2009, 06:00:28 pm
Doc, I am so happy for you!! Enjoy blinking.... ;)
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 08, 2009, 02:09:07 pm
Thirty-Six hours after the implant procedure and all is well.  You guys weren't kidding when you said to expect some "bruising & swelling."  Oh boy, did it ever, I'd hate to see what the other guy looks like.  What was really cool, the surgeon, Dr. Byron Deen of Cobb Eye Care, in Marietta, Georgia, actually called me a short while ago to check on me.  I couldn't believe that he took the time to do that; says a lot of good about the man.  His office also called earlier today; what a nice good!

Thanks everyone for your input and advise!
  :)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: ppearl214 on October 08, 2009, 02:17:39 pm
Doc,

glad to hear "so far, so good" except for the bruising/swelling. Hang in there... give Fred a belly rub, feel better and pls keep us updated.

Phyl
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: lori67 on October 08, 2009, 04:33:31 pm
Glad it went well!  You can always make up some cool stories about how you got that black eye!  Hopefully it won't still be that way on the 31st, but if it is, you can make it part of your costume.  You can be Rocky.   :D

Lori
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 08, 2009, 04:40:56 pm
Hi Lori,

Yeah, I'd make the perfect inept prize fighter or bus hits man accident victim...it's really not that bad...very sore to the touch still but its only been a day.

Thanks!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 08, 2009, 07:46:03 pm
Glad to hear that things are going well... is ice still your friend?
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 09, 2009, 07:24:53 am
Maureen,

Are you kidding...I love Ice and Pea's, frozen Pea's by the bag!  ;)

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 20, 2009, 05:27:01 pm
Big Trouble with the Gold Weight Implant, it somehow shifted to one side and the inside corner of it closet to my nose has poked its way through the Eyelid and has been nothing but a bloody mess all afternoon.  I'm having to change the blood soaked patches every hour, can't stop the bleeding with normal pressure which hurts like you know what.  The damn surgeon was out of the office today without anyone in to take his place...have to wait until 1:30 tomorrow before I can get in to see him.  His nurse said they usual take the weight out when this happens, wait for the eye the heal and than put another one in; another surgery...well screw that, if it comes out thats it, I'm not going through that pain and discomfort again, the very minor benefit I gained from the procedure isn't worth going through that again, no way, not happening.

Has anyone else had this happen to their implant???  I think I'm going to sue to surgeon just for the heck of it...let him feel the pain...that would be fun!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Kaybo on October 20, 2009, 05:40:51 pm
Doc~
I have had several implants because the first few times we didn't have the right weight.  We finally got lucky the third time and I wore that implant for about 5-6 years until I had the T3 surgery.  At that time, Dr. Byrne put in a platinum chain as he thought that it was thinner and would be even less noticeable.  My whole face was so swollen and then I had some major complications, but when all of that settled down, I realized that that weight had slipped more to the inside corner than it should be.  It didn't protrude thru the skin but wasn't really effective.  During all that time, we got an occuloplastic surgeon in our town so my eye doctor sent me to him.  We decided to remove the weight and let my eyelid heal as much as possible (that thin skin had already gone thru a LOT of trauma - he didn't want what is happening to you to happen to that thin skin)...that was about a year ago.  I do have an external weight that I was wearing at night but right now, I don't even need that.  I will probably wear it more once the air is so dry and the heaters kick in!  Sorry that this has been such an ordeal for you but I am still of the opinion that they are worth it in the care of your eye in the long run...

K
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: saralynn143 on October 20, 2009, 05:42:18 pm
I'm really sorry that happened. My ophthalmologist-surgeon warned me of that risk, especially since I have "thin eyelids," but fortunately mine has stayed put.

During my surgery, he and the residents were having what-if conversations about extrusion -- like what if it came popping out like the creature in "Alien." Not exactly the topic of conversation I would have chosen, but it did keep everyone amused and occupied.

Hope all goes as well as can be expected tomorrow. Keep those frozen peas handy.

Sara
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 20, 2009, 06:01:54 pm
It was an Occuloplastic Surgeon that preformed the procedure.  If this one has to come out, thats it, I'm done with implants and certainly wouldn't recommend anyone else get one, not now...the next time it might just go the other way and permanently damage / destory an otherwise good eye.  I was never warned that this could happen, I have copies of everything I signed prior to surgery and haven't found that anywhere...I'll drop all that off to my attorney, this is just wrong.  K, there's no way I'd have this done three times like you have, no way...I'm actually very sorry now I did it at all...!

Thanks for sharing ladies...I appreciate it!

Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Kaybo on October 20, 2009, 06:58:33 pm
actually I have had that done 4 times and then removed one more...but have had even more eye surgeries...one weight I had put in without being put to sleep or any "relaxers!"   Sorry it didn't work for you - it truly does make the eye care so much easier.  Of course, the EASIEST eye care is having your eye sewn shut...I had mine completely shut for 3 months.  Not super attractive but SUPER easy care!!  LOL!

K
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 20, 2009, 07:37:40 pm
No, I'm not going the fully shut route...I'm goofy looking already, don't need any help in that area.  I can't believe this is happening...it was suppose to be "just that easy" and here I am "just that messed up."  I'll got back to taping and patching my eye every morning...no bloody mess, every!  I'm really, really angry right now.  I'm glad the surgeon wasn't there to see me today...it may not have gone very well...think of the headlines..."Gimpy Tumor Patient Assaults Eye Surgeon w/Wooden Cane"  Argh...this isn't good at all...*(&$*(&@)$&!

 >:(
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: lori67 on October 20, 2009, 08:26:56 pm
Well, fortunately for the doctor, with your depth perception issues and general wobbliness - you might not have actually hit him anyway!   ;)  He would have been like a pinata!

Seriously though, I'm sorry you're having these problems.  I never had the eye weight because my doctor felt my skin was too thin right there and was afraid it would work its way out.  I guess it does happen.

I hope you get in to see the doctor soon and can get things fixed up.

Lori
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 20, 2009, 08:52:08 pm
Sorry to say you're right Lori...I can't find my own butt with both hands right now let alone hit a moving target with a skinny stick without falling down and hurting myself in the process.
 
???
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 20, 2009, 09:09:34 pm
Aw I'm sorry Doc :'(
No fun for you.
 S***T happens, unfortunately all at once for you.
Hang in there. You were mad enough after the surgery so there still may be some of that lingering anger, mixed with your newfound anger. AARgghhhhh. Deep cleansing breath.......
Was your face nerve cut?
After this ordeal is over, what about an external weight?
Let us know how things go.
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: saralynn143 on October 20, 2009, 09:29:04 pm
Make sure they keep the weight for you after it is removed tomorrow. You can sell the metal or you have an interesting memento.

Do you know how heavy your internal weight is? I have an external 1.6 gram weight that is gathering dust around here.

Sara

P.S. I think the deep cleansing breath is a very good idea. Extrusion happens; I'm just sorry it happened to you.
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: TP on October 21, 2009, 06:15:09 am
Doc I am so sorry. I shared with you how great my eye weight surgery was and how simple the procedure would be. I had problems after my AN was removed, had two additional CSF surgeries, had to be stitched up twice (without novication) got meningitis, had to have a pic line inserted and home antibiotics for 2 weeks for 6 hours a day, had to have a lumbar drain inserted and during those 6 weeks I could not close my eye and the patches I was wearing scratched my eye so when my eye Dr (regular opthamolgist) said he could insert a gold weight and I should be able to close my eye, I never had any idea something like what you guys have been going thru would happen. Keep in mind this eye also had double vision so I had to wear black tape over my glasses for about a year until (I got a stick on prism (had to see another eye dr specialist at another hospital)). Wore the prism for 4 months until I had my double vision surgery which was a very unusual surgery (two day process). A few months later when my regular opthamologist removed my gold weight it took a matter of 15 minutes and my husband sat in his office and watched the whole thing.

Doc, I am so sorry. Please hang in there. I know how difficult the eye issues can be. Please don't give up. Once you are able to close your eye on your own (with the help of a weight) it make a world of difference. Please reconsider once you are healed. Keeping you in my prayers.
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 21, 2009, 08:26:42 am
Make sure they keep the weight for you after it is removed tomorrow. You can sell the metal or you have an interesting memento.

Do you know how heavy your internal weight is? I have an external 1.6 gram weight that is gathering dust around here.

Sara

P.S. I think the deep cleansing breath is a very good idea. Extrusion happens; I'm just sorry it happened to you.

I'll know soon if they're going to remove the weight...it's 1.8 grams, not much.
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 21, 2009, 08:39:55 am
Doc I am so sorry. I shared with you how great my eye weight surgery was and how simple the procedure would be. I had problems after my AN was removed, had two additional CSF surgeries, had to be stitched up twice (without navigation) got meningitis, had to have a pic line inserted and home antibiotics for 2 weeks for 6 hours a day, had to have a lumbar drain inserted and during those 6 weeks I could not close my eye and the patches I was wearing scratched my eye so when my eye Dr (regular epidemiologist) said he could insert a gold weight and I should be able to close my eye, I never had any idea something like what you guys have been going Thur would happen. Keep in mind this eye also had double vision so I had to wear black tape over my glasses for about a year until (I got a stick on prism (had to see another eye Dr specialist at another hospital)). Wore the prism for 4 months until I had my double vision surgery which was a very unusual surgery (two day process). A few months later when my regular epidemiologist removed my gold weight it took a matter of 15 minutes and my husband sat in his office and watched the whole thing.

Doc, I am so sorry. Please hang in there. I know how difficult the eye issues can be. Please don't give up. Once you are able to close your eye on your own (with the help of a weight) it make a world of difference. Please reconsider once you are healed. Keeping you in my prayers.

Gosh TP, you've been through the ringer...my little eye problem pails in comparison. The Eye Surgeons office called this morning and bumped up my appointment to 11:30 "just in case they have to take the weight out."  If they do, I'm done with Implants...not going to endure that again...the pain and discomfort just aren't worth it to me.  I appreciate everything you wrote, but really, my recovery has gone relatively well and I'm not going to subject myself to any more distasteful events or procedures...its my body, my life...these Doctor's are just out to bill the insurance company for another procedure...the heck with them, they don't care about the consequences or after effects on the patient, they're so cavalier in their approach it sickens me.

Thanks again!
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 21, 2009, 12:29:54 pm
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That's it, all gone.  My recently implanted gold weight had to be removed after only two weeks because it broke through the skin.  Thanks to many of you folks, Cheri in particular, I knew to ask about external stick-on weights...mine will be ready in a few weeks!

End of Story, I hope!

  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Jim Scott on October 21, 2009, 02:07:03 pm
Doc ~

For what it's worth, I was sorry to learn about the failure of the gold weight implant (extrusion).  I can understand your anger at this disastrous turn of events.  With the pain, the bloody mess and all the frustrations of dealing with both your eye and now, the problems stemming from the weight implant that was supposed to help you, you must be stressed out - and with good reason.

I would consider selling the gold weight.  Gold is up to $1,000. + per ounce so even at a paltry 1.8 grams, it might be worth something.  That way, it isn't a total waste.  A lawsuit may or may not be realistic.  I have no idea.  An attorney can tell you straight off if you have a case.

Best of luck with the external stick-on weight.  It's got to be an improvement! 

Jim
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: cyrmom2 on October 21, 2009, 02:23:19 pm
Hi Doc.
I'm so sorry to read about your horrible gold weight troubles.  Did your surgeon have anything to say to you when he took it out?  I really hope the external weight works for you.  Mine is sliding around a lot and has rotated with my skin still attached. I guess the skin on my eyelid is very loose now. Bummer.

I'm scheduled for gold weight surgery November 13; however, I'm still on the fence about the procedure. I've not had additional progress with my eye since week four post-op and some days it is worse. The plastic surgeon will be using a 1.2 gram weight. I did read an article summary about the use of fillers (hyaluronic acid gel) as a nonsurgical alternative to the gold weight (Ophthalmic Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery Jan/Feb 2009). I wish this was an option for me.

Keep us posted on your eye recovery.
Cyndi
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 21, 2009, 02:34:32 pm
Hi Jim,

My Attorney already told me not to waste my money and his time...enough said.  I'm going to keep the weight as a reminder of the "pain" since they wouldn't let me keep a piece of the Tumor; just kidding...1.8 grams won't get you a cup of coffee now days.

Cyndi,

I'm certainly not a good one to ask about having Weight Implant Surgery, you know what my recommendation is going to be.  Many people have had weights implanted with great success.  Ask around before making up your mind.  Good luck with that, I'm certainly not going to do it again even though the Eye Surgeon recommended a second go even though he couldn't explain why the first failed...just happens he said.
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: nancyann on October 21, 2009, 03:15:42 pm
Hi Doc:   The weight is stitched in place, so I don't know why it happened....   I had to have my gold weight removed & had a platinum one put in months later but that was due to an allergy.   My paralysis is so bad I have no choice but to have a weight in,  & I'm glad I haven't had any problems with the last one.
I go to an oculoplastic surgeon to have procedures done, an ophthalmologist for keeping a check on my cornea, etc.
I hope you won't need a weight put in down the line - since your paralysis will be temporary.

Always good thoughts,  Nancy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 21, 2009, 04:30:38 pm
Hi Doc:   The weight is stitched in place, so I don't know why it happened....   I had to have my gold weight removed & had a platinum one put in months later but that was due to an allergy.   My paralysis is so bad I have no choice but to have a weight in,  & I'm glad I haven't had any problems with the last one.
I go to an oculoplastic surgeon to have procedures done, an ophthalmologist for keeping a check on my cornea, etc.
I hope you won't need a weight put in down the line - since your paralysis will be temporary.

Always good thoughts,  Nancy

Hi Nancy, I sure am glad to hear from you.  The Doctor, an Oculoplastics Surgeon also, said sometimes the weight just "migrates" but couldn't explain it further.  It was removed about six hours ago and I'm still able to close my eye which perhaps is a sign my 7 nerve had started to wake up again while the weight was in.  I don't know for sure whats up but I can close and open it, but only when I also close the right eye.  As for the "temporary" paralysis, lord I hope you're right because my Neuro won't say either way...he's noncommittal when it comes to giving me a prognosis for my recovery; I guess he doesn't want to guess.  

Thanks and take care!
  ;)
Doc   (I don't know why I always use the wink guy cause I can't do that!!!)
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 21, 2009, 09:10:51 pm
Hey Doc,
Well now I know what that gold weight looks likes! Looks mighty cumbersome.
Hopefully your eye will behave and close on its own.
Sorry you had to endure all that, and it is especially disappointing when doctors just brush it off. They do this all the time, (well, not all the time and not all doctors)  but they need to learn a little better bedside manner and lower themselves. Like "I'm so sorry about this. This rarely happens...." or something.  (maybe he did).
Maybe this is God's  (or your eye's) way of saying you never even needed  it!
So take it easy while your body continues to heal. It is a slow steady process.
I'm still waiting for  my face to come back. I ha but he said it would take a while. I'm also enjoying treating all the other things going on inside of me at the same time.
But thankfully I had no problems with my weight-they never mentioned anything like that to me either about the complication.
Rest easy,'
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 22, 2009, 07:30:52 am
Hi Maureen,

Glad to hear your weight procedure is working well for you.  You certainly have a positive attitude!

I don't think Doctor's generally mean to be so standoffish, it's probably just a natural human instinct to not get to close to "us" and openly share all of their thoughts; it probably weighs on them over time when things don't go well as they sometimes do not.

It's been almost twenty-four hours since the weight was removed and I'm still able to shut, and keep shut, my eye...my 7 nerve seems to have a renewed spark of life since the weight first went in two weeks ago; maybe having it in actually helped me somehow.  Hopefully that will get better as will your face.  I'm still dealing with a lot of facial paralysis too, especially around my left eye and mouth. It's still hard for me to eat and I make a real mess of things; especially the front of my shirt!  Forget about getting a smile out of me, it's physically impossible for me right now...I can smirk, but most people are offended by that so I generally avoid even trying. 

On a final note, I asked about the insurance billing for the removal procedure and got a surprise...no he said "this one is on the house."  I'll believe it when I *don't* see it.  You be well Maureen, and please make sure that positive attitude stays out front; people like me often take our strength from people like you!

  ;)
Doc

Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Kaybo on October 22, 2009, 07:42:46 am
Well, Doc, even though I am sorry that you had to go thru this...it may be a HUGE blessing in disguise!!  I would take a few days of bloody mess if it meant that I could blink my eye again!!  ;)  Here's hoping that your eye keeps working well!

K  ;D
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 22, 2009, 09:02:57 am
Well, Doc, even though I am sorry that you had to go thru this...it may be a HUGE blessing in disguise!!  I would take a few days of bloody mess if it meant that I could blink my eye again!!  ;)  Here's hoping that your eye keeps working well!

K  ;D

Thanks K and thanks for the insight into the external weight too!
 ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: moe on October 22, 2009, 11:09:30 am
Yea, Doc, it is a part time job working on that positive attitude! I'm glad I can be of service.
In my other post, I accidentally erased the part of acupuncture.
It is helping me with EVERYTHING! My moods/energy/neck pain/back pain/ facial paralysis -baby steps in that category but it is working.
I'm so glad the doctor said no more surgery yet (back in Aug) which prompted me to look into acupuncture. I'm a believer now.
Anyway keep your eye nice and clean- no infection allowed.
Just add this to your blog. Milk it for what it's worth- "the weight was forcing it's way through my eyelid like some alien, blood splurting everywhere!........"
 ;)
Maureen
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 22, 2009, 12:36:31 pm
"the weight was forcing it's way through my eyelid like some alien, blood splurting everywhere!........"
 ;)
Maureen

Maureen - It's done, you're now a contributing editor....see "Two Weeks and Gone."  Great line, thanks!
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: ppearl214 on October 22, 2009, 12:43:50 pm
Just want your eye healed and you feeling better... soooooooooooooooo.......soooooooooooooooooooooooo *takes deep breath* sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... *coff* soooooooooooooooooooooo... Beanie sends her healing "toots" to help the cause!

Hang in there Doc!

Signed
Dr Phyl :)
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 22, 2009, 12:55:11 pm
Just want your eye healed and you feeling better... soooooooooooooooo.......soooooooooooooooooooooooo *takes deep breath* sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... *coff* soooooooooooooooooooooo... Beanie sends her healing "toots" to help the cause!

Hang in there Doc!

Signed
Dr Phyl :)

Thanks Dr. Phyl and Beanie!  Everything is going to be just fine...healing from the second procedure to remove the weight is going good thus far and I was actually able to attend a business lunch today without making a huge mess down the front of my shirt...hooray...I'm full, life is good!
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: ppearl214 on October 22, 2009, 01:01:42 pm
I'm full, life is good!
  ;)
Doc

Please keep reminding yourself that... even when a ca-ca day sets in (which we are certainly entitled)...... life is good :)

Dr. Phyl has spoken and has now left the building :)
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: cindyj on October 22, 2009, 06:28:20 pm
Hey, Doc!  Just catching up a bit out here and see you've had some trouble!  So sorry the weight didn't work out for you...have heard the external stick-ons are good, so maybe that will do the trick for you...hope so!

Cindy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 24, 2009, 07:32:35 am
Saturday, October 24th, 2009:  I’m still able to close my left eye.  I really don’t know yet if my nerves are starting to wake back up or not, all I know is I can close my left eye.  I can still only close it when I do it with the right, but it closes all the same.  Been sitting here at the kitchen table all morning trolling the internet on my MacBook, no patch, wearing my new prescription glasses that arrived yesterday, the left lens frosted to help combat double vision.  They’re working out nicely, I just have to get used to using the progressive lens--first time with this setup.  I saved a full 50% off of what Lens Crafters wanted for the same frames / prescription.  Found a San Francisco based company and ordered them on the web.  The glasses arrived within a week of ordering them for a $113.00 which included First Class postage.  Lens Crafters was $215.00 before taxes.

Thanks for checking in Cindy...I'm doing better.  When is our next meeting...sure would like to see everyone again?!?
 
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: TP on October 24, 2009, 09:38:17 am
Doc, I didn't know you had double visioin. What has your Dr shared with you about your double vision? I had double vision as well.
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 24, 2009, 09:56:53 am
Doc, I didn't know you had double visioin. What has your Dr shared with you about your double vision? I had double vision as well.

TP - The Eye Surgeon said there is a procedure possible to center my eye again but my Neuro Surgeon is saying to wait because just like I'm regaining eye lid function, very slowly, they say I'll also regain control over the eyeball itself.  Right now its pointed up and toward the bridge of my nose and causes the double vision; I've had it since I got out of surgery.  Sometimes, like this morning while I was cleaning my eye, it almost looked like the eyeball was a little more to the center; not sure...time will tell.  Meanwhile the frosted lens on my new glasses lets me go without a patch on my eye and cuts way down on the double vision, but doesn't totally eliminate it.  It turns out I was just a touch far sighted so these glasses serve me in a number of ways; they're my reading glasses too!

Thanks!
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: cindyj on October 24, 2009, 11:24:31 am

Thanks for checking in Cindy...I'm doing better.  When is our next meeting...sure would like to see everyone again?!?
 
  ;)
Doc

Looks like it will be Jan 16th or 23rd...waiting til after the holidays.  I'll post something out here about it in Dec and you will receive an official invite in the mail (assuming you've joined the ANA).  Thought about maybe seeing if some of us would like to get together for lunch first of Dec maybe...we'll see.  What do you think?  (But, I'll start a different thread about that later...in case Phyl is watching this one and mentions that we're getting off topic ;) )

Cindy
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 24, 2009, 03:25:43 pm
Hey CIndy,

Yeah, we've got to be careful about getting off topic, I'd hate to think what it'd be like if Phyl set Beanie loose on us.  Lunch sounds good to me, I'm already getting hungry.

Take Care!
  ;)
Doc
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: TP on October 26, 2009, 06:11:54 am
Doc, when I woke up from my AN surgery, the first thing I noticed was I saw a lot of people standing around me. Had no idea I would have double vision. My eye turned towards my nose. I waited for about a year before I saw a specialist at Shands of Gainesville. She gave me a PRISM to wear which allowed me to remove the ugly black tape from my eye glasses. It was a stick on PRISM for my eye glasses. She wanted me to wait a few more months before she would schedule surgery to correct my double vision. Unfortunately for me my double vision did not improve and I had to have eye surgery. I hope your eye will improve on its own but if it doesn't I will be happy to share with you the process  if you ever have to have eye surgery. My Dr was wonderful but I must tell you it was a most unusual surgery, two day process. Thank the good Lord, it worked and I look normal.
Title: Re: Gold Weight Implant
Post by: Doc on October 26, 2009, 07:14:47 am
Hi TP,

I've already been told getting a Prism isn't an option for me right now, it would have to be so thick / large to be effective, it isn't practical.  Meanwhile, rather than black tape on my glasses, we've discovered ordinary shelving contact paper frosts the left lens sufficiently enough to counter the double vision; and isn't as conspicuous as black electrical tape.  The problem I'm having however, I still have to work at blinking or closing my eye so allowing the eye to come in constant contact with moving air is actually painful; irritating at best.

Anyway, I guess I'll just have to be patient...isn't that what we do?!?

Take Care!
  ;)
Doc