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Title: EYE DROP ?
Post by: satman on November 26, 2007, 08:35:38 am
Hello everybody.
I would like to know what eye drops you guys have had the best results with.
please give me info on drops and lube.
I have been using lacri-lube,and have noticed that it creates some type of mucuus after a while.
I also use artificial tears and have noticed that while it soothes the eye it doesnt seem to work for very long.
With the lacri-lube I have noticed that it makes my eye red,yet seems to take away the burn.
HELP,Please....

Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Cheryl R on November 26, 2007, 08:47:37 am
  Refresh  Liquigel!           Couldn't get along without it!          Celluvisc is good if one needs a bit heavier but it causes blurriness while the Liquigel doesn't.       I don't like the little individual vials of drops as poke myself in the eye but some like them as are preservative free.               It is maddening that one has to experiment to see what works for them.        Genteal didn't work for me at all.                               I also wish our local Targets carried the smaller bottle of the Liquigel as they only now carry the larger economy size.     Walmart does carry the smaller bottle.
   I am to the point where some days I don't have to use hardly any drops and some days do  a lot.  It seems to be worse when I am out doing errands or shopping.   
               Hope this helps.                        Cheryl R
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: lori67 on November 26, 2007, 10:06:29 am
I like the Refresh Liquigel the best too.  The Genteal daytime stuff is okay, but I've found the Genteal PM turns very watery after a few minutes in your eye and all runs out.  I haven't found anything as good as the Lacrilube for night time.  I do notice the goo in the morning from that though, but I bought just plain eye wash (I have the Baush and Lomb for sensitive eyes) and it seems like the goo gets rinsed out pretty good with that.

Sam's Club had a 2 pack of the smaller bottles of Liquigel for a pretty good price last time I was there.  I poke myself in the eye with the little plastic vials too - but I like them to be able to stick in my pocket for "emergency lubrication".

It is strange the everyone has to figure out what works for them by trial and error.  You'd think there would be one good one out there that would work for everyone.
Lori
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: satman on November 26, 2007, 10:27:02 am
I have tried Genteal lube and it made my eye burn,I am currently using Lacri-lube and it makes my eye red.
does anyone know if both of these have preservatives ?
I am just so fed up trying to figure all this crap out.
does anybody have a list of preservative free gels and drops.
I have heard that the preservatives are what causes irratation,is this true?
I am about ready to go buy a bullet,just kidding.
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: 4cm in Pacific Northwest on November 26, 2007, 10:42:12 am
Super “8�

The genteal brand has a preservative. Because they were less expensive than the others I stocked up on those… big mistake as it turned out I was allergic to the preservative and had to toss the whole lot.

I recommend this line
http://www.allergan.com/site/products/consumers/home.asp?id=refresh_plus

Also it is important to clean your eyelid and lashes daily. Being that you are not blinking the lashes build up with gunk… which will also irritate the eye.

I use this stuff
OCuSOFT® Lid Scrub Pre-Moistened Pads
http://www.ocusoft.com/PatientCat/lidscrub.htm

These are available at most drugstores and pharmacies etc

You are going to need to install a medicine cabinet into the phone booth… to store your stuff along side your kryptonite.

Satmann Super 8 – faster than a news truck in a Texas Snow Storm…


So how much snow did you get there over Thanksgiving?

Cheers,

4




Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: lori67 on November 26, 2007, 01:51:31 pm
Well, i can't be sure, but I think a bullet might make your eye a little more red and irritated.   :P

My opthomologist gave me some samples of Thera Tears.  They are preservative free and a bit thicker than the Liquigel in my opinion.  They are good if I'm having a bad eye day, but they are usually a little more than I need.  I had a tear duct cauterization done, so usually I have too much moisture in that eye and can use the thinner stuff if needed.

The TheraTears are made by Advanced Vision Research  (www.theratears.com).  Maybe you can get some samples of a few things so you don't have a cabinet full of drops that you don't use - like I do...I could open my own pharmacy!

Lori
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: chrissmom on December 19, 2007, 06:56:43 pm
Chris' problems with his eye (redness) seemed to coincide with the change from prescription eye drops (Isoptotears - $3.00) to Over the counter eye drops.  We tried everything...including Refresh.  The redness was cleared up with prescriptionTobradex (antibiotic and steroid drop). His eyes seem dry while at school as you don't blink as often when studying and using a computer.  So your eyes tend to dry.  I think his conjunctivitis is actually due to dry eye.  He will be going back on the Isoptotears and  He will need to use Lacrilube more frequently . His doctor is sending him to a neuro-opthalmologist, the same doctor who put in his gold weight. Stay tuned...
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Jeanlea on December 19, 2007, 07:41:48 pm
I was having problems with my eye turning red.  I think it was from dryness.  I now put in PM Refresh Eyes, the ointment, every 4 to 5 hours during the day.  It's not great for vision, but I've gotten used to seeing out of one eye.  At least it keeps my eye from getting red.  My eye can get red easily since I don't blink and have no feeling in it.  I also have to be very careful if I put anything new into my eye.  It seems to get irriated by most anything new.

Jean
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: luv2teachsped on December 19, 2007, 08:24:35 pm
Hi-

     I have a lot of problems with my eyes too, and have a collection  of gels, drops and ointments.  I have found another new one called Soothe, and it works really well for me. It does blur my vision for a few secs, but last a whole lot longer than drops.I too use the ointment at night. Luv2teach
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: nancyann on December 19, 2007, 08:30:01 pm
Hi Rita:  sorry to hear of Chris' eye problems.   You know, I thought the weight was suppose to help us blink, but it looks like we never blink all the way ...
My eye doc told me even when I closed my eyes hard, the right eye doesn't close all the way, but does close enough to protect the cornea.   
I find this eye issue to be so frustrating.  When I get an eyelash in my eye it sticks right on the eye - I have to douse it with eye drops, then get it out with a tissue.
I'm back to using the NITEYE bubble at night again.    I've even contemplated having my eye stitched shut it gets so annoying, but my vanity stops me.
Wish there WAS a solution to this issue.   I've taken care of the droop with surgery, but it seems nothing works with getting a paralyzed eyelid to blink all the way,
to stay closed at night for sleep.....
Just needed to vent...
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Soundy on December 19, 2007, 10:22:34 pm
Today in CVS while waiting on a prescription to be filled,  I saw some clear plastic patches to put on
wounds while batheing... two sizes... big enough to go around eye and bigger ones about
6x6 ... 5 of the small ones were $3.95... cheaper than the eye patches for keeping
gel in eyes at night that I ordered and look about the same ... I don't need them anymore but
thought I would pass it on
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: nancyann on December 20, 2007, 06:53:46 am
Soundy:  Do you remember the name/company of the product?  I'll see if I can find them at CVS next time I go.   I just bought 5 packs of 14/pack NITEYE bubble - set me back a little over $100.00     I'll try anything that's cheaper - I use them every night;  since this looks like it'll be long term for me anything less expensive is worth a try.
Thanks,  Nancy
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: 4cm in Pacific Northwest on December 20, 2007, 07:59:31 am
Nancy,

Big ole mothering Canadian bear hugs being sent you way! SO sorry to read the eye issues continue for you.

How are other areas of your face (post tendon transfer) healing and responding?

You have been such a trooper through this.

More hugs.

4 :)
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: nancyann on December 20, 2007, 08:14:44 am
Thanks 4,  yeah, it seems the eye issues continue for me & others; when I was still hoping for any movement or increased tone, my neurologist told me the eye area is the last to come back, if it does at all.  My right eyelids are still swollen, ice packs help, but then it just starts to swell again.  Takes time said the doc.
As far as the surgery, I am so happy with the appearance - no more droop.  Still a little swollen, but that is slowly going away.  I have to bite down frequently & make a closed mouth smile on my left side to equal the right, that still hurts but not as much.  I kinda wish I didn't bother with the chemical peel under the eye.  I can't be out in the sun even with protection - it could discolor the skin, so I've pretty much been homebound.   I could go for a walk when the sun goes down, I'm just not motivated lately....
Yeah, geuss I'm just tired of it all, wish I had Jean's & janitorx's outlook.  I've been a bit of a pill lately.....
Always good thoughts (at least trying!),    Nancy
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Samantha n Adrian on December 20, 2007, 03:56:49 pm
HI everyone!  Satman…..I like the Genteal PM gel for night (aka EYE GOOP).  I also use the Refresh PM gel for night and I think Genteal works better.  About 2 months ago another AN’r suggested Refresh Liquigels.  They are an absolute lifesaver!  The wholesale clubs have them, 2 big squeeze btls for $17 or so bucks.  I have tried the Refresh Tears, but I don’t think my eye is ready for that yet…..I need something more viscous.  The Liquigel is a bit blurry at first (nothing like PM gel) but lasts a fairly long time and is comfortable.

Adrian :-\ (i'm going to keep signing off like this.  It represents my current smile.....)
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: 4cm in Pacific Northwest on December 20, 2007, 10:04:10 pm
Sun? Did someone mention sun? What is that? - Oh ya that 40 minutes of brightness we had here in the PNW skies... which never returned.Sigh...

Tomorrow is the longest dark night of the year … sigh

Here in the PNW it appears we don't need drops - since there are non stop "rain drops".

Nancy maybe you should plan a vacation here- November to February there is little sun, eternal drops from the sky... lots of great AN'ers this way...

Snow? Even snow would better than the rain. In my decade of living here... I have never seen snow on Christmas.

Hey mmm maybe I should market a preservative free eye drop and call it "Oregon Rain Drops" ... what do you say Satman - do you want to go into business with me? We could sell shares in the 4 & 8 corporation. You could market it down there in big ole Texas. Perhaps we could get Yardtick to market for us up there in Canada… Hey maybe  we can create another preservative  eye drop line called “Canadian Snow Dropsâ€?- that you just store in the freezer and use as needed. ;)

Cheers,

4

Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: satman on December 21, 2007, 07:16:14 am
count me in !
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Soundy on December 22, 2007, 07:36:31 am
Nancy ... don't remember name but will check when back in... I find stuff in our store that mom's CVS
two towns over doesn't carry... I just kinda noted it ... it was the end of a long day of MRI and
great adventure with the kids and I was just thinking give me my meds and let me go home ...
but I will check in case you don't find them... Mom used to drive here to get some products
but when asked her CVS began getting them for their customers
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: dr4sherry on December 28, 2007, 06:53:11 pm
i like refresh oitment haven't really used anything else..and if i did..well i went back to refresh oitment.rather.. i like to use it even in the day. i will settle for the blurriness...becuase once it goes away you don't have to worry much with your eye draining from being so dry.....
I've had facial paralysis for 4 years jan 2008 its the most awful thing i've had to endure my whole life. i had a parotidectomy jan 2003 at age 33 which left me with right sided facial paralysis......i am very bad with taking care of my eye. but when it starts to bother me and start to drain the first thing i think is the eye is dry......the second if it doesn't resolve itself is an infection....
 :-\ the whole ordeal really sucks i just want to be the way i was meant to be with a smile...
I am happy to have found this site..to gripe about and talk to others who actually are going through......
I probably don't belong here becuase i didn't have acoustic neuroma..but i do have paralysis..
talk to you later all....got to read my first message....YEAH
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: nancyann on December 28, 2007, 07:58:16 pm
YEP, Refresh PM ointment is what I've been using for 1 1/2 years, works the best for me too.   & dr4sherry, you DO belong here...
& I want to be the way I was too, but I know it ain't gonna happen, but I'm getting closer with the surgery I just had.
The eye issue IS such a bummer though;  I plan on talking with the docs about it in a few weeks,  there's gotta be SOMETHING more that can be done....
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Pembo on December 29, 2007, 08:53:27 am
I started using Restasis 2 years ago and I've never used the lube again. I put in a drop of Restasis in the am and before bed.  At first it did burn a bit going in but that went away in a few weeks. You have to use it regularly to get the best relief but it is AWESOME! I had to ask my eye dr about it, he never suggested it. I got the idea from these boards.

Prior to Restasis the only thing that worked was lacrilube. I put it in at least 4 times a day if not more. I have not used since.........
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: nancyann on December 29, 2007, 09:08:16 am
Hi Pembo:  Are you able to blink your eye?   My opthomologist told me the plugs or 'tear forming' drops won't work with me because my eye makes tears, but are useless because I can't blink.  They just sit on my lower lid then fall out.   So I have to continue with lubricant....
& I'm really getting tired of the eye issues....
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: Jeanlea on December 29, 2007, 10:27:54 am
I tried the Restasis and it turned my eye bright red.  I stopped using it after two days.  I know that it takes at least two weeks or more to see any effects, but I couldn't take the red eye.  I had asked my eye doctor about it.  He said to give it a try.  I tried, but I prefer not to have the red eye.  Seems like anything but PM Refresh Eyes turns my eye red now.

Jean
Title: Re: EYE DROP ?
Post by: nancyann on December 30, 2007, 08:47:49 am
Weird thing happened last night.   About 3 hours after putting in my lubricant then putting on my eye moisturizing bubble, I woke up with my eye burning.   I reapplied more lubricant, put the bubble back on, but the burning continued.  So I took off the bubble & 'relief'!   Don't know what that was about.  I'm going to try NOT using the bubble & see what happens....