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General Category => AN Issues => Topic started by: Dan on October 04, 2007, 02:45:46 am
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Hello , I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm out of the Hospital. First two days after surgery terrible headaches but treated quickly with good meds. Then 3 days witn no problems, walked on my own, no paralysis, very little dizziness. Day 6 got up felt tired, washed and shaved and then almost passed out, stayed in bed all day with IV's. Day 7 felt good again but noticed the left side of my mouth didn't come up as high when I grin. Day 8-12 everyday lowed doses of cortezone and everyday more Paralysis, I can't close my left eye completly and I have to use a straw to drink. I have very little balance problems, can do most of the very difficult Physical Therapy exercises. Doctors all say that because I didn't have and problems directly after surgery that it should all come back with time.
Wish me Luck
Dan in Germany
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Dan,
Glad to hear you are home from the hospital. Now take it easy. Don't try to do too much too soon. Keep up the steady progress. Slow and steady is the way to go. You are doing great and now you are in the realm of the "posties". Remeber that your AN didn't occur overnight and recovery doesn't either. Glad to hear you don't have balance problems..........that is still a biggy with me twenty-six months out! It was before I had the surgery too though. Just don't try to drink that great German beer with a straw though.....wait on that one!
As my daughter says everytime I make a new stride, "Yeah! Yeah! That's Great!!"
Brendalu
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I hope everything goes well for you now Dan and your recovery is fast. I will keep you in my prayers.
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Dan: I had the same problems with my eye and mouth. I'm almost 6 months post surgery and I can close my eye just fine and drink out of a glass or cup without using a straw. I still have a little bit of facial and tongue numbness, but it slowly subsiding. However, I do have significant balance problems which I hope will continue to improve.
My best advice is to take it slow. When you feel tired, rest. When you feel sleepy, sleep.
Best Wishes
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Hi Dan in Germany!!
I am so glad to see this post of yours!!
The face/eye thing happened to me too. My surgeons called it late onset weakness/paralysis. By the time I went
back to work at 8 weeks, my mouth worked again and my eye was almost closing all the way. I could not stand
the eye patch at night so I used a piece of saran wrap after I lubed up. It worked like a charm!!
Welcome home Dan, Kathy
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Hi Dan: wishing you continued healing my friend - as you've already read, those who had facial weakness after surgery usually get back movement, so BE PATIENT - & be patient with EVERYTHING. Listen to your body, rest often - your body will let you know one way or the other if you don't !!!! Remember to keep your eye lubricated - drops or lubricant, whatever works for you - you must protect your cornea!!!!
Always good thoughts, Nancy
ps: THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME !!
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CONGRATS DAN! hang in there bud it will get better.
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Dan, I had late onset facial weakness that started on Day 10 and lasted for the next 6 or 7 weeks; eye didn't close, smile drooped, cheek hurt, nose wrinkle weak. I didn't have steroids, just waited it out and treated the dry eye. Hopefully, your face will fully recover quickly too.
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Dan,
Glad you are home and back to being a postie.
REST REST REST WALK rest rest rest Walk , eat and sleep … and plan do only this for a month. IE take it easy and do not do too much. (And don’t lift ANYTHING)
The sooner you can wean off pain meds and go with just Tylenol the better (the meds start to play havoc on the GI system if you are on these a long time- lots of archived posts on that)
If your body says “ouch I hurt and I am SO tired�… listen to your body lay down and sleep.
Cheers,
4
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Hi 4,
I also have that “stick on� eye lid weight. I personally don’t like it because it doesn’t stay put. Also……$250…YIKES! I have the EXACT same product and I paid $82 including shipping to my house. I would question that.
I also was told that I probably should wait before opting for eye surgery. It’s not fun dealing with an eye that doesn’t work properly, but as long as I keep it “gooped up� (a technical term by the way) it’s fine. I just have to wipe it clean before I drive.
Anywho…..good luck with the temp weight. Hope the eye starts working on its own soon!
Adrian
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Hi Dan, I'm glad to hear that you are home but sorry that you're having some issues. Remeber, the brain takes awhile to recover and that is why you need to rest, the brain makes you feel tired so that you have to give in to it. I know it's difficult but take the time, enjoy the rest, do the necessary exercises to regain your balance and give yourself a break. You deserve it after all you've been through. By the way, where are you in Germany, my husband does alot fo business there and is in your country quite often, I have been with him a few times but not lately becasue of this darn AN, but I absolutely love your country. It's beautiful and the food is fabulous. Good Luck, Holly
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Dan,
Re your left eye...
Go here
http://anausa.org/forum/index.php?topic=5211.0
Adrian and I have another thread happening... this may have some info for you that might be helpful.
Know there are solutions to get you through this.
4
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Dan -
so good to hear from you. Welcome to the "Land of the Posties". I think it was just yesterday that someone mentioned that we hadn't heard from you; glad you feel well enough to fill us in on your progress.
Sorry to hear about the problems you're having, but in reading the comments of the others who've had similar issues, it sounds like they should clear up in time. Take it easy, don't overdo, and get lots of rest; surgery takes a lot out of you.
Hang in there,
Jan
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Just want to say thanks so much for all of the encouragement, prayers and suggestions. I have been taking it really easy since I have been home, trying to do my facial exercises the Physical therapiest showed me, while I was in the hospital. Monday I go to a Rehabilitation Center in the Black Forest for 3 weeks, from the information packet I recieved it looks like a very beautiful place to relax and recover ( sounds like a large health club resort with physical therapists as personnel fitness trainers) . They have 3-4 hrs of therapy a day that you are requiered to attend and you can use the rest of the facilities if you're healthy and fit enough. The rooms are just like a hotel but they have a buzzer so if you have a problem there is always a nurse available and a Dr on call.
The last few days I have only been taking pain medicine (like tylenol) in the morning when I get up, slight headache every morning. Cortezone is down to 7.5mg a day and drops 2.5mg each day until monday and then I am supposed to stay at 2.5mg per day for a while.
Jan you asked where in germany I live, I live in Albisheim a small town west of Worms or south west of Frankfurt, its about a 6 hr car drive from where your parents got married in Bremen.
I've got to go lube my eye and lay down, can't sit at the computer more than 1/2 hr before it starts bothering me. I would really like to be able to sit and read for hours, I finally started reading the last Harry Potter book while in the hospital and haven't been able to finish it.
Thanks Dan in Germany
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Dan -
the rehab center in the Black Forest sounds fantastic. See, there are upsides to having AN surgery, afterall ;D
Jan
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Dan,
Is this where you are going for rehab?
http://www.reha-klinik-hausbaden.de/cms/front_content.php?idcat=26
(I just did a black forest google and this was the first that came up)
I am 6 weeks post op and would love something like this here….
You mentioned facial exercises. I did not get anything like that from my physiotherapist … mmm I think you are getting better care there in Germany.
What sort of exercises are you doing for facial palsy?
4
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4,
The facial exercises are done 3-4 times a day in front of a mirror to control that both sides move the same, which is very difficult because my left side hardly moves at all. Most of the exercises you have to use your fingers to hold back the good side so its even. EXERCISES: Raise both eyebrows, Close both eyes, Raise your nose like a rabbit, Smile, Pucher your lips (kiss), Try to move your lips like a fish, try to blow up a baloon or just your cheeks evenly, try to suck your lips between your teeth.
The other exercises you just use a finger to feel the muscle movement on the good side and then try and try until you feel a little bit of movement on the AN side, Finger Positions: above the eyebrow, outer corner of your eye, next to your nose, next to your mouth, and in the corner of your mouth. I have paper that explains the exercises but its all in German and I'm not quit fit enough yet to translate all of it, maybe during or after Rehab.
The Rehab I'm going to is specialized in Neorologie but not ANs, more strokes, other brain tumors, etc..
http://www.waldbronn.ruland-kliniken.de/
I don't know how to put in an internet address so you can go straight to it so you will have to type it in if you want to visit it.
The health care system here is very good, but expensive (Employer pays 50%). Everyone in Germany has health care, it doesn't matter if you have work or not.
Dan in Germany
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Hello there Dan. So glad to hear from you. The exercises are pretty basic. I went for evauatiion, they gave some excises to start with and then it took another 2 1/2 weeks to get the next appointment. I continued doing the exercices on my own. I had no movement on the AN side and it slowly started coming back. It is almost completly back now. I had the most trouble with dry eye. I found a better eye drop, made for those with extreme dry eye and that made all the difference.
It is hard work, discouraging at times, but you will see progress. If a old lady can do it so can you!
Claudia
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Dan -
the exercises can be a major pain - and you probably won't be too good at them at first - but if you do them, they will work. My doc gave me both facial and balance exercises to do every 12 hours both pre and post op and I think they made all the difference in the world. It wasn't always easy trying to fit the exercises into my daily schedule - especially after surgery when I was so tired - but they turned out to be very useful.
Jan
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Hi Dan, just a quick welcome back to the forum, I am glad to hear that you made it through surgery and are in recovery now. I can't help with the details of the eye and facial nerve things, except to say that judging by posts on this forum, they usually resolve well in cases like yours. If you had full function just after surgery, then they are probably just due to all the swelling and healing that is taking place at the surgical site, and will get back close to normal in time.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery,
Steve
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Dan,
Glad you are out and on your way to full recovery. The Black Forest recovery program sounds awsome as I spent every day walking up into the Black Forest from my daughters place and found it a very peaceful, energizing, inspiring place to walk. I miss being there as I am now home in very flat Florida. Perhaps you can take a trip to Meersburg (Lake Constance) area when you are ready to travel. It is there in the restaurant of 3Stuben where I met Tino Pusceddu Battista. He is the chef there and talking with him he revealed he had AN surgery in Germany 14 years ago. His facial nerve was involved, but to look at him you would never know. He is very proud of his progress after surgery and even though he has his days where his taste is off, you would never know it as his cooking was out of this world! Prost Dan!
P.S. Don't sweat the issue of being able to sit at computer typing, reading, thinking, remembering as this will pass (I remember it well) with time. It's a huge volume of info your brain is trying to absorb all at once, hence the difficulty and exhaustion it can bring on.