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Title: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on February 01, 2008, 09:01:01 pm
For those of you who've had BAHA surgery, I was wondering if you had local or general anesthesia for the procedure, how you decided which to have, and if you were happy with your choice.   ???

I've had surgeries with both local and general anesthesia, and I'm leaning towards going with the local, but am not 100% sure.  Doc says he can do it either way.  I'm not afraid of pain, but I am wondering just how creepy the sound and smell of the drilling is (not to gross anyone out).  I've read some posts on the BAHA Forum website where patients actually talk about having local anesthesia and sleeping through the procedure, but I can't imagine that is something I would be able to do.

Also, what if I go in saying local and at some point decide I want to change my mind.  Is something like that possible?  Or would I be stuck with local once the procedure is underway?

Feedback, please.

Thank you,

Jan



Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: 1wareagle on February 01, 2008, 09:41:38 pm
Jan,

    Sorry but I can't help you on this one. I had mine installed at the same time as my surgery. I have read other post that they were not put to sleep but I'm not that brave!

Ellis
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: Sam Rush on February 07, 2008, 12:04:15 pm
I had local for my BAHA because they (Dr. Brackmann et al) were using me for a teaching demo for visiting Drs, and I wanted to hear the discussion, and I wanted to drive home afterwards,   However, my blood pressure shot up dangerously high, and they kept me overnite at St. Vincents. 
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: lori67 on February 07, 2008, 01:31:06 pm
I had general only because I've been a nurse in the OR and I know all about the gross sounds and smells and I'd rather not hear or smell them coming from my head.

Besides, I don't get much chance for a good rest.  I didn't have any problems - in the OR at 10am - and home by 3pm.

Lori
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on February 07, 2008, 01:47:39 pm
Thanks for the feedback all.

Ellis, I would have loved to have the BAHA surgery at the same time as the AN surgery, but neither the doc nor I was planning on my being SSD.  Oh well, sh*t happens  ;D  You can't have everything in life and I'm eternally grateful he saved my facial nerve.

Sam, can I ask? is blood pressure usually a problem for you?  I don't anticipate it being a problem for me, as I've been on blood pressure meds for years, but you never know.  BTW, it's great that you could be a "demo" for others - I wouldn't mind doing that myself.  Anything to help the cause!

Sam & Lori, being medical people, can you tell me, IS it possible to switch anesthesia midstream?  As in I go with local and then if I totally freak out, switch to general? or is that not a good idea?

Obviously I'd ask my doc before going into it, but I'd like to know if you think it's a possibility.


Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: danijake on February 11, 2008, 04:28:33 pm
I just had mine done this morning and I went with general. I'm a baby when it comes to that stuff.
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: lori67 on February 11, 2008, 05:33:37 pm
Hi Jan.

Usually when you have general, someone from the anaesthesia department will call you a few days prior to the surgery to go over your medical history and you would need to go to pre-admission testing - EKG, blood work, review of meds, etc.  I don't think they have to do that for a local, so I'm not sure if you could switch at the last minute, because you wouldn't have had all that other stuff done.

You can mention it to your doctor though and see what he says. I'm sure you're not the first person to ever question which one is right for you.  As far as a local goes, they can give you meds to make you not remember any of the procedure (Versed) and they can also do a procedure called conscious sedation, which doesn't require putting a breathing tube in, but you're still asleep and won't remember anything.  I'm not sure what the pre-admission requirements for that are, so you'd have to ask.  The anaesthesia department is really good about accomodating you, at least that's what I've always found, and they can usually come up with something that will get the job done and still make you happy - even if it requires knocking you out with a cast iron skillet!   ;)

Dani - glad it went well.  Hope you don't have too much of a headache!

Lori
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: nancyann on February 11, 2008, 05:49:46 pm
Dani:  glad to hear all went well....   Let us know if you feel it's helping.   

         I'm still in the contemplating mode - I think mainly because I don't like the thought of something sticking out of my head....

Always good thoughts,  Nancy

   
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on February 11, 2008, 07:31:21 pm
Lori -

thanks for the info.  I'll pass on the cast iron skillet  ;D  and will talk to my doc more about my anesthesia options. 

Dani -

glad your surgery is over.  How did it go?

Jan
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on February 12, 2008, 02:03:32 pm
I called to schedule my BAHA surgery this morning and said I'd go with local rather than general.

I was told that amazingly 98% of the BAHA surgeries my doc does - and from what I hear he does a lot - are with local anesthetic.  I was very surprised by this statistic  :o

Going with local eliminates a lot - the need (and cost) for an anesthesiologist or nurse anesthetist to put you "out" since the doc administers the meds; no lab work; no fasting; no need to wake up from the drugs; etc.

I figure I'm calm enough about the procedure to do it without being knocked out and as long as there is no pain I'll be fine.

Sure hope I'm right  ;D



Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: lori67 on February 12, 2008, 03:06:24 pm
You'll do fine!  You've been tough enough to make it this far - I'm sure this won't be so bad!

Lori
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: nancyann on February 12, 2008, 04:48:10 pm
Let us know how it goes Jan,  we'll be rooting for ya!
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: Sam Rush on February 13, 2008, 12:54:30 pm
Yes, you can swithch to general if you freak out, but that is unlikely as it is a short procedure.

good luck
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on February 13, 2008, 09:55:31 pm
thanks, Sam

as of yesterday, I've decided that I am not going to freak out - that's all there is to it

the doc may have to find someone to hold my hand if things get too creepy, but I'm thinking I'm brave enough to do it while I'm awake
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: Trevi16 on March 01, 2008, 11:05:17 pm
Just had the BAHA surgery 3 days ago.  I was under local and don't remember a thing.  It was quick and painless...until I got home and the anesthesia wore off...Make sure to take your pain pills! ;)
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on March 01, 2008, 11:14:34 pm
Trevi -

glad to hear it was quick & painless.  I'm a little confused, though.

If you only had local, how come you don't remember a thing  ???

Doesn't local just numb your head?

Jan
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: BDB on March 02, 2008, 09:12:18 am
Jan,wishing you the best with your upcoming BAHA!Hope it all goes smooth!
Bruce
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: Kate B on March 02, 2008, 10:13:06 am
I called to schedule my BAHA surgery this morning and said I'd go with local rather than general.

I was told that amazingly 98% of the BAHA surgeries my doc does - and from what I hear he does a lot - are with local anesthetic.  I was very surprised by this statistic  :o

Going with local eliminates a lot - the need (and cost) for an anesthesiologist or nurse anesthetist to put you "out" since the doc administers the meds; no lab work; no fasting; no need to wake up from the drugs; etc.

I figure I'm calm enough about the procedure to do it without being knocked out and as long as there is no pain I'll be fine.

Sure hope I'm right  ;D

Jan,

In order to allay some of your wondering, could Chicago Ear give you references to talk to who have done it with a local?  Even though experiences vary, if they suggest one or two patients to talk to it might relieve some of the apprehension.

Kindest Regards,
Kate
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on March 02, 2008, 06:13:33 pm
Kate -

thanks for the suggestion, but I have no apprehension.  I did for a few days, but it's long gone.  I have nothing but the utmost faith and trust in Dr. Battista - and nothing can change that.  He has performed lots and lots of BAHA surgeries and even if I were his first patient to choose local - which I'm definitely not - he wouldn't let me do anything that he wasn't confident I could handle.  At this point, I can't wait until Tuesday at 9:30.  I'm actually anxiously awaiting the drill and that huge mastoid bandage on my head.  Sick - I know  ;D  But I've been planning on the BAHA since September and I'm more than ready to get on with it.

Bruce -

thanks for the good wishes.  I'll let you know how it goes.

Jan



Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: lori67 on March 02, 2008, 08:40:00 pm
Jan,

I'll be thinking about you on Tuesday morning!  Happy drilling!   ;)

Lori
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on March 02, 2008, 10:20:38 pm
Thanks - just hope my hard head doesn't break the drill LOL

Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: sgerrard on March 02, 2008, 10:42:01 pm
At this point, I can't wait until Tuesday at 9:30.  I'm actually anxiously awaiting the drill and that huge mastoid bandage on my head.

Well then by all means enjoy yourself on Tuesday!  :D

Best wishes,

Steve
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on March 07, 2008, 09:10:31 pm
Surgery on Tuesday morning went great; took a few tylenol through Tuesday evening; took last 2 early Wednesday morning; haven't had any since  :)  Never filled the Rx for Vicodin - but had lots of offers from people I know to buy it from me if I'd fill the Rx for them.  Okay????

Removed my lovely "hat" (pictures on another topic entitled "My BAHA hat") 24 hrs post op.  Under the hat was a stiff square pink foam bandage held in place by a small round white plastic cap.  This was supposed to stay in place until next Wednesday when the doc was going to remove it.

But, this morning as I was pulling my shirt over my head to go into the shower, I felt a tug on my head, heard something hit the floor and looked down to see my bandage and cap on the bathroom floor :o  After staring at them in disbelief and feeling like a complete idiot, I decided I'd better call the doc to see what I should do. One of the corners of the bandage must have gotten snagged in my shirt.  It probably also didn't help that I was removing said shirt with my left hand while I used my right hand to brush my teeth.  Okay, I admit it, I like to multi-task LOL
 
Since it's only Friday, doc said it was way too early to have them removed and they needed to go back on.  Asked one of my twins - age 12 - to put it back on for me, but was met with a lot of "ooooooohs and grosses" so I had to travel to the doc's office so he could do it for me.  While I was there, I felt compelled to apologize profusely to the office staff for taking everyone's time for something so completely stupid.

Moral of the story - like my mother pointed out to me when I told her earlier today - don't wear a shirt that has to be pulled over your head post BAHA surgery!  I guess I figured I was smarter than that because I had pulled same shirt over my head about 6 times in the 2 days since I removed my "BAHA hat".

Some days I think I'd be better off just staying in bed - and today was just one of those days  :)  Thank God my boss had no issues with me showing up 2 1/2 hours late for work. 

Jan
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: lori67 on March 07, 2008, 09:59:45 pm
Jan,

I guess the doctor should have duct taped that thing on there, huh?   :D

I'm sure you didn't need to apologize to the office staff - I'm quite sure they've seen much worse than that!  Did you tell them that you were trying to do 12 things at once when the cap came off?  Oh well, I can't make fun of you too much - I do the same thing.

Hope tomorrow is a better day!
Lori
Title: Re: BAHA - local or general anesthetic ?
Post by: leapyrtwins on March 07, 2008, 10:01:50 pm
You know I'm a bit surprised he didn't think of duct tape  :o

Most men I know think it can be used for everything  ;D